19980420




Articles on 20th April, 1998.

Today's Articles: 23.


Articles' Numbers: (19980420_01-23)





Article 1:

80K, 81K, 82K and 83K


阿童 (wmanlai@netvigator.com) at Sun Apr 19 21:42, 1998 said:


請問各板友知否這四線的歷史呢?各線的現時路線是否己跟開辦時完


全不同?另81K 點解唔多見有十一米車行走的呢?反而多了以前81M


的字軌車。82K客量咁少但為何仍可繼續開辦呢?83K如轉黃泥頭往來


沙田市中心代替循環線,並把黃泥頭開往沙田市中心方何改經源禾路


會否好些呢。請各位多多指教!謝謝!


Article 2:

Re: 河上鄉雞場


GU8933 (w0108@netvigator.com) at Sun Apr 19 23:49, 1998 said:


> eric ching (bching@hk.super.net) said:


> 周六本人去了河上鄉雞車場看,在上水搭51K後終見到了.(


> 多謝GU8933幫忙!) 不過怎也找不到入口,問一村民她也不


> 知.在此有問題二則:


> 1. 本人怎樣也見不到有'BACO'珍寶?(反而在凹頭見真有珍 寶,退役多年何以仍有這'珍藏'呢?)


> 2 有人曾經入過此拍照嗎?





'BACO'珍寶 被雞包圍著 , 本人也是僅僅看到(真的有'BACO'珍寶)


肯定冇眼花 , 本人同往的朋友也看到.


本人沒有入內拍照 , 但在車上(行駛中)影了 2 張 , 相中隱約可


見'BACO'珍寶 (被雞阻住,但從雞車窗中看到).





不用客氣!





GU8933


Article 2: (Request 1)

請問坐什麼車去(最好是巴士)?那裏的巴士是不是由大路駛進去的?


Article 3:

<廣告> 90bus 討論區 試驗!


Denny Yu (ykh97@hkstar.com) at Sun Apr 19 23:49, 1998 said:


<廣告> 90bus 討論區 試驗!


http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9027/90busmsb.htm





由於試驗皆段, 因此只有暫時網址!


未有連結90bus homepage!


請多多支持, 提出問題!


Thank You!


Article 4:

Re: 銀豪也發癲~~~~~~


小丸子VA51 TONG HN8481 (k5959585@hkschool.net) at Mon Apr 20 00:29, 1998 said:


> VA51(塞米一條) (parnell@hkstar.com) said:


> 銀豪為了增加名聲,便加入失控行列.


> 不斷穿插於各路線之間,為求出位,不惜唔入字軌.


> 不但令好多同業(司機+車)失望,也甩了巴士迷的


> 底,浪費了巴士迷捕車的心機.今日行780,聽日


> 行8~~~~~~死未?





銀VA好似爭在未攻入大埔中心的rt.307喎....








VA51 TONG HN8481


(LV97 CM7009)


Article 4: (Request 1)

銀VA行過R.307喇,不過,我唔記得邊日行咋,


我只係記得o個架係VA62,替VA12走R.307


(下午時間).





LA11 Shing FF7869


Article 4: (Request 2)

> Gakei! (95261675d@polyu.edu.hk) said:


>


> 970 都好似未行過 ...





老實講,有d路線真係要用3+2車才玩得起架~~~


307,788,970,960......etc.


都唔知城記用咩車行788!平時788用DL,ML都已經唔係好


玷架啦!1-9-98城記一接手就大劑咯~~~~~~~~


Article 4: (Request 3)

How about if CTB increases the frequency of departures on route 788?


Article 4: (Request 4)

307載客量需求好大,銀豪僅係攻唔入啦!


Article 5:

Re: 最應取消的巴士路線


VA51(塞米一條) (parnell@hkstar.com) at Mon Apr 20 01:41, 1998 said:


> Leyland395 (wailap@netvigator.com) said:


> 不論任何公司, 只要你覺得該路線唔值得再存在便提出





中巴:110,504,42(除非延長去西灣河),25M,66,63,27,83


,338


九巴:71K,300,59A


城巴:182,314,6X(or 260),7,41A,N118,592,37A(or 37B)


,515


Article 5: (Request 1)

唔係掛, 37A (OR 37B) 都取消? 呢兩條線任何時候都有人坐, 未見


過空車, 繁忙時間仲頂閘頂到七彩!





反而以上咁多線, 我覺得 515 就可以取消, 因為我試過包車上山頂.


Article 5: (Request 2)

大佬呀,你唔好亂講得唔得呀?你以怎麼標準來訂奪那條是


應該最消的巴士線?香港島的唔講


71K最消左,咁大埔市居民搭乜來往各屋村呀?而且響下午


時間,71K有很多很多學生主婦乘搭來往大埔市各地,有時


仲有冇位坐希望!你好唔好亂講





仲有300,如果冇左佢,朝早104,105A,301等線就要加開,點


解要取消呀?


嘿嘿,你居然話要取消一條朝早有時頂閘的182....


Article 5: (Request 3)

I think KMB:12,CMB:59A,60,68A,Citybus 6X(or 260)


61(or 61M)


Article 5: (Request 4)

Can you explain why you would have such a suggestion? It seems that most of the routes listed above have got a relatively high passenger demand.


Article 6:

Re: 最受歡迎的巴士路線


VA51(塞米一條) (parnell@hkstar.com) at Mon Apr 20 01:40, 1998 said:


> Leyland395 (wailap@netvigator.com) said:


> 不論任何公司, 只要你覺得該路線最受歡迎的便隨意提出


中巴:2,2A,8,82,84,88,720,721,788,780,590,


38,42,9,309,970,23,25,64,66,15,15B


九巴:74X,70X,278P,1A


城巴:E11,930,8X,118,99,40M,40,529,6A,260


Article 6: (Request 1)

城巴:5B,12M,969


Article 6: (Request 2)

> WingKit (tslmis@hkstar.com) said:


>


> 點少得603, 215X, 98A和60X呢D米缸線? 還有很多呢...


>


> 5系列算唔算?


>


> WingKit





I think KMB:960 Citybus:5B,930 CMB:300,970





Goldfish


Article 7:

如果係咁o既情況......


陳跛屎眼 (s9400081@student.ouhk.edu.hk) at Sun Apr 19 22:34, 1998 said:


如果你見到...











我會立即大聲叫'小心'!





你會點?


Article 7: (Request 1)

> 陳跛屎眼 (s9400081@student.ouhk.edu.hk) said:


> 如果你見到...





Do you think your name 陳跛屎眼 is too dirty?


Article 7: (Request 2)

> 南海大色狼(戴四屎) (edac2168@netvigator.com) said:


> 我會嘗試大叫司機停車,或者會拉那人回來.





你可能趕唔切!


Article 8:

Re: 最好坐的熱狗巴士投票:


GU8933 (w0108@netvigator.com) at Sun Apr 19 23:53, 1998 said:


> 小丸子VA51 TONG HN8481 (k5959585@hkschool.net) said:


> 最好坐的熱狗車係....


>


> 中記


>


> DM


> LM


> ML45-84


> LV


>


> 九記


>


> S3BL


> S3V


> S3M


> M


> BL4-???


>


>


> 歡迎投票!


>


> VA51 TONG HN8481


> (LV97 CM7009)





中記


LM


MB


DM





九記


DM


S3BL421-470


S3N222那批及密龍(康明斯)


S3V





GU8933


Article 8: (Request 1)

CMB:LF


KMB:ME,S3BL421-470,S3N1-220


Article 8: (Request 2)

中記 :


VA51-64


DA83-92





九記 :


ATR1


AS3-22





城記 :


TRIDENT(2100)





GU8933


Article 8: (Request 3)

我認為中記的 VA 系列





九記的AS, AV





城記的 Trident!


Article 9:

Re: 中記rt.27可否用DA去打學生仗?


VA51(塞米一條) (parnell@hkstar.com) at Mon Apr 20 00:47, 1998 said:


> 小丸子VA51 TONG HN8481 (k5959585@hkschool.net) said:


> 如題:


>


>


>


>


> 中巴80網頁


>


>


> VA51 TONG HN8481


> (LV97 CM7009)





唔係唔得,但係差唔多被529打敗了!似乎無咩必要.


如果81A改全日,加DA就真係有得玩喇!


Article 9: (Request 1)

27 hasn't been defeated yet!


In morning, 27 always 'flying stops' after North Point


MTR, 529 is always full after Quarry Bay!





So, adding DA is possible.....


But where can CMB/First Bus find more DA to serve 27?


Article 9: (Request 2)

How about get some DAs from route 504 after it was cancelled in September?


Article 10:

最新11C行車最快記錄


WingKit (tslmis@hkstar.com) at Mon Apr 20 01:34, 1998 said:


是今天尾車BL21, 全程由竹園至上秀茂坪, 只須19分25秒, 至觀塘僅須


11分鍾. 十分兇狠. 而舊記錄是21分10秒.





若是鴨車, 不論如何最快都要過25分鐘. 記得那次連一向坐慣鴨車的


我, 落車時也有想嘔的感覺...





WingKit


Article 10: (Request 1)

有次坐架3D(S3M20?,EG牌),o係裕民坊上車,可以o係個個站停+幾枝紅燈o既情況下,


18分鐘'剷'上慈中總站!!!


死未?!





Tony(GB2444)


ICQ:8791015


Article 10: (Request 2)

我就試過嚮九龍城坐 98C 返翠林, 只須二十分鐘.


Article 11:

About NLB new Route


Goldfish (n960@hkabc.net) at Mon Apr 20 09:24, 1998 said:


All Friend





yesterday I went to Tung Chung Town Centre,NLB is opened the


New route 36 From Tung Chung Town Centre--Siu Ho Wan Depot


(circular),But Should you answer When the New Routr openen?





Thank you all!!





Goldfish


Article 11: (Request 1)

27/1/98.


Article 12:

Re: 九月後(九記)rt.690熱狗何去何從?


Dennis Law (ctb2500@upnaway.com) at Mon Apr 20 03:26, 1998 said:


> 郡主誕辰20週年 (kyy690@netvigator.com) said:


> 因為唯一的隧道巴士線在熱狗安裝【八達通】,九月後何去何從?


> 因為現時九記的隧巴上已大部份都係冷馬.





Probably they will be transferred to some other routes, as Citybus would probably force KMB to convert route 690 into a fully A/C service.


Article 12: (Request 1)

可能九月就會有第一條熱狗線可以用八達通. 但 690 熱狗只有三四部,


又話唔定九記會拆番 D 機出黎, 果幾部 3BL 俾番 98C/98D.





> as Citybus would probably force KMB to convert route 690


> into a fully A/C service.





都唔係迫o既, 係九記見城記全冷, 面子問題自願改全冷. ^_^


Article 13:

Re: 新聞:九廣輕鐵意外/67X和44延續討論


Zenga 辛格 (96479104@plink.cityu.edu.hk) at Mon Apr 20 01:19, 1998 said:


> AV129 (hktkevin@netvigator.com) said:


> 今天三時左右,虎地交匯處一平交路口發生九廣輕鐵撞上單車意外,


> 肇事的川崎車輛編號1082在約100米後才完全停下,幸而騎單車者只受


> 輕傷。


>


> 值得留意是,大量乘客由兆康苑站步往元朗公路口乘九巴往元朗,令


> 該站九巴生意大增。



>


> 另想請各位板友繼續討論67X和綠跑巴44系兩條獨立問題,謝謝!





睇黎你似北區首相咁﹐死不罷休﹐要67x在大欖隧通車後﹐真真正正


能延長至九龍東鐵站﹐至肯收手﹒


我見屯東北(藍地0個頭)﹐有大型基建﹐唔知係唔係公屋﹐如果0個D


真係公屋既話﹐由0個度開線出尖沙咀區啦﹒


我都係好言相告﹐如果你呢篇文只係請板友去番之前條thread﹐繼續


討論67x之延長建議﹐定必當灌水論...





> AV129





辛格


Article 13: (Request 1)

輕鐵有意外, 當然多了人搭巴士啦, 請問值得留意在哪裡呢?


Article 14:

鬥快一問


88K (b9505044@ln.edu.hk) at Mon Apr 20 11:37, 1998 said:


如果從沙田市中心到銅鑼灣Sogo,


那個建議最快,又或有其他建議?





建議一:乘火車到九龍塘轉地鐵直達銅鑼灣。


建議二:乘火車到九龍總站,然後轉隧巴(路線112)。


建議三:其他


Article 14: (Request 1)

呢個最快. 紅磡火車站仲有 102, 103, 106, 107, 110, 116 可以去到銅鑼灣.


咁多條線一定提供到兩分鐘聯合班次.





火車五個站, 計埋過獅子山二十分鐘, 巴士等車連塞車又二十分鐘,


四十分鐘攪掂! 170? errrr....


Article 15:

What would you do?


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Mon Apr 20 04:43, 1998 said:


I spoke with my father on the weekend, in which I really cared about him being on the street on last Friday, the most polluted day in Hong Kong this year so far!





Anyway, he goes to work from Tsim Sha Tsui to Lai Chi Kok. (on Cheung Sha Wan Road right before the flyover to Mei Foo) Since he listened to me about taking buses being better than MTR, (as you don't have to walk as much) he depends on buses to go to work!





The only route he can use to go to work is route 6, which stops right in front of his work place. Not for 6A though, which requires quite a long walk!





So last Friday when he was waiting at the busstop as usual. He was feeling uneasy already due to the polluted air. A 6A A/C bus came, and he didn't get on board because he figured the 'long walk' would be just as bad as if he stands at the busstop waiting for the next A/C 6. Unfortunately, the next 6 bus is a hotdog, so he decided not to board on the bus because the polluted air would get into the cabin and it's just as bad, and finally he waited for the next 6 A/C bus.





Despite being a bus fan, I told him to take MTR next time if he knows ahead of time that the air quality is that bad, and don't take a chance for waiting for an A/C bus. For the very same reason, I might choose MTR next time over routes which don't have full A/C service on a polluted day like last Friday.





What would you do?





100 Wong





PS. How come 6/6A on the other side of the harbour are full A/C while this side aren't?


Article 15: (Request 1)

I'd take MTR as well if I knew of the bad air quality ahead of time. If an A/C bus


is not guaranteed, why should I take a chance? Also, waiting at the bus stop just for


a cold horse is just a waste of time... I'll breathe even more bad air!





Granted, MTR is nowhere near as fun, because all you see is a wide expanse of black


tunnels. But, if the air is bad, I'm not gonna stand in it for too long, for fear


that I'll get an asthma attack! :(


Just because they are operated by Papaya Co. on HK Island! :)





Regards,


Herman


Article 16:

Re: Question: CMB's Training Buses


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Mon Apr 20 03:42, 1998 said:


> Dennis Law (ctb2500@upnaway.com) said:


> As CMB will cease its operations in September, what will be the fate for the DMS driver trainers (i.e. T19-21)? Will they be transferred to First Bus?





My speculation is not likely, since I assumed the 181 new buses 1st Bus ordered can replaced all the Fleetlines, plus some Victory MkII and Jubilants in service, there isn't much point to keep these DMS as training buses when the rest of the bus fleet has fully automatic transmission.





They may be sold to bus clubs or bus fans.





On the other hand, maybe my favourite MB's and MC's will become training buses of the 'next generation'!





100 Wong


Article 17:

Re: 電車路LA失控事件


LA11 Shing (b493332@hkstar.com) at Sun Apr 19 23:37, 1998 said:





> hurt死的VA51(塞米一條) (parnell@hkstar.com) said:


> 繼有雞鴨玩失控之後,架LA7又有加入失控行列!


> 本來行537的LA7,最近成日出現於電車路的路線,


> 如2A,38,今日又見到他行10添!





你見到呢架LA7走2A就唔好見怪喇,因為呢架車而家下


午時間要走2A(柯打),走完行返504. 至於個字軌師傅冇


返兼冇人替佢,又或者o係紅色假期,架車就會俾其他師


傅[手羅]o左去走其他路線,不過,呢架車走10號就少見


o的喇,琴日我至見到佢走104咋.





LA11 Shing FF7869


Article 18:

Re: 為何往香港仔華富的紅跑巴一問?


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) at Mon Apr 20 00:18, 1998 said:


小丸子VA51 TONG HN8481 (k5959585@hkschool.net) said:


> 小弟想知,我去襯大道中等中記4,91,94和城記rt.7的


> 分站等巴士時,果d往香港仔華富收$5的紅跑巴實會停係


> 呢d往南區的巴士站,如由大道中和大道西的往南區巴士


> 站,d往南區紅跑巴實停係呢d巴士站等客,不知為何呢?





好簡單o者, 搶客囉.


西環電車路周時係咁啦, 一到 905 爆到瀉o既時候就有 D 紅小逐個逐個 905 站


咁停, 但通常都冇乜人上車o既.


Article 19:

Re: 新巴究竟用甚麼車好?


Matthew Wong (wong3553@hkschool.net) at Mon Apr 20 12:45, 1998 said:





> RONALDO (johnnywc@netteens.net) said:


> N日前, 生果日報E頁刊登了新巴最有可能購買的車型, 我覺得佢寫出來的東西簡直是BULLSHIT!!!!12米的TRIDENT,MAN, ETC怎麼可能走上紅綿道, 勵德村,石澳道, ETC.............不如叫新巴買ARROW仲好啦!!!!!!!!!歡迎各路大兄發表高見, 多謝多謝.





Don't write bad laugauge and notice FAQ.


I suggest using 10M bus(Dragon 10M)


Article 20:

$1300可買起MC1??????


88K (b9505044@ln.edu.hk) at Mon Apr 20 11:45, 1998 said:


從壹週看到 MC1 只需$1300,


誰知在那可買呢?我就不信 $1300就可買起,


你信唔信?我家有兩部都不肯放啦!死都不肯。


Article 21:

The Fleet number of Long Win


Goldfish (n960@hkabc.net) at Mon Apr 20 11:31, 1998 said:


Long Win had used the Fleet Number but not Writing on the


Buses





The Long Win Fleet Number are:





LW1 HD2599 LW11 HM6894 LW21 HN2951 LW31 HN9036


LW2 HD2793 LW12 HM6990 LW22 HN3158 LW32 HN9680


LW3 HD2985 LW13 HM8416 LW23 HN6631 LW33 HR8939


LW4 HD3005 LW14 HN1655 LW24 HN6616 LW34 HR9072


LW5 HD3126 LW15 HN2157 LW25 HN8234 LW35 HR9271


LW6 HD3560 LW16 HN745 LW26 HN6691 LW36 HR9546


LW7 HD3999 LW17 HN2195 LW27 HN6878 LW37 HR9683


LW8 HD4066 LW18 HN3876 LW28 HN8082 LW38 HS306


LW9 HD4316 LW19 HN4077 LW29 HN855 LW39 HS459


LW10 HD4462 LW20 HN4195 LW30 HN8802 LW40 HS471





Goldfish


Article 22:

Problem in this board/本版的問題


小豬 (newflyer@sympatico.ca) at Mon Apr 20 10:11, 1998 said:


小弟入了本版已經有一段時間了,但已發覺有些問題了。好像本版


修好了之後,有三位版位,包括陳??、另一位陳??和一位戴??


的版友,好像在搗亂似的。好像一些不應有太多人注意的標題,如


2??X騙錢、行慢路之類,他們就一個人覆十篇文,令本版的可讀性


大為感少,希望版主和版望助理像多加留意。亦因為此,小弟當見到


有廿幾卅條標題的題目就不入去啦,因為有可能是那班人正在玩。





P.S.本人是不能收中文電郵的,如有任何不滿,可用英文電郵至,多謝。





Effective from the recovery of this board, I found that some of


our broadmates had replied lots of messages with the same thing.


They are Chan ??, another Chan ?? and one of them is called


Tai ??. For those members, I hope you guys can behave yourself.


Don't put useless information on this board. This will affect


the readability of this board. In addition, board master and


board admin of this board, please take some action against


those guys who affect our board.


If you have any problem, you are welcome to e-mail me by clicking here.





Thank you!





Sincerely,


小豬(Siu Chu)


Article 22: (Request 1)

I think these three people should behave themselves!


Article 23:

Airport Buses


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Mon Apr 20 03:37, 1998 said:


Yesterday I went out with a bus fan here in US (who was born in England) and we went to see some London RT's in action from a small town about 100km from San Francisco.





Anyway, he commented why 'low floor buses' aren't used on airport routes in Hong Kong, as he remembered he was taking Darts. He said airport routes are where 'low floor buses' are needed most.





My response was Hong Kong already decided to build the new airport in Chep Lap Kok by the time those SLF buses arrived in 1996. Bus companies didn't want to invest so much money and allocate those SLF buses for airport services.





However, I just wonder is it really that difficult and troublesome to converted those non-SLF Darts back to 'normal' version and specifies those 'SLF' Darts into 'airbus' specification? I thought seats can be easily taken out with luggage racks like AL44. Is it fair for the bus companies treat passengers who pay as much as $19 per journey? (versus $8.3 for routes with similar destination)





I'm sure if CTB is operating those airport routes right now, it can easily allocate those SLF buses for airport routes use. (while someone said luggage racks and luxurious seats are useless on these buses quite a while ago, I believe they can be quite useful in this situation.)





100 Wong