19980317




Articles on 17th March, 1998.

Today's Articles: 45.


Articles' Numbers: (19980317_01-45)





Article 1:

Re: 西隧路線建議


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) at Mon Mar 16 15:03, 1998 said:


> AV340--進 (ee_ckcab@stu.ust.hk) said:


> 本人有下列西隧路線建議, 歡迎板友提出意見:


>


> 1. 晨早特別線 (假日停開)


> 931 愉景新城 --> 灣仔碼頭


> 服務時間 平日:7:30-8:45AM 每10-15分鐘一班


> 收費: $13.50





應係 $15.30 吧?!





> 經: 荃灣地鐵站,大河道,青山道,德士古道,荃灣路,葵[充]高架道,


> 西九龍快速公路,西隧,干諾道中,夏愨道,告士打道





都唔錯, 剛剛可以填補荃灣地鐵站及大河道一段冇西隧巴士服務o既地區.


可以由城記做, 930 出車. 但可能因為收費較貴, 趕左人去坐地鐵/船.





> 942 長[哼] --> 天后 (假日停開)


> 服務時間 平日:7:30-8:30AM 每10-15分鐘一班


> 收費: $15.30


> 經: 青衣西路,青康路,青衣路 (之後與948相同)





可改為 948 特別班次.





> 948 長安 <--> 天后 (全日雙向服務)


> 服務時間 平日:6:30AM-11:00PM 每7-15分鐘一班


> 假日:6:50AM-10:30PM 每13-20分鐘一班


> 收費: $15.30





948 冇能力轉全日, 有幾個原因:


1. 中記唔夠冷馬.


2. 九記唔想做. (淨係加車九記都唔想)


3. 天后冇坑.


4. L 廠又唔知要派幾多車行全日.


5. 平日全日 7-15 分太密, 7-20 都得. (現時服務時間 7, 其餘 15/20.)





> 2: 青怡花園特別班次


> 服務時間 平日:7:35AM 7:50AM 8:05AM 8:20AM


> 假日停開





呢類班次好睇乘客需求, 若果真係好多人上唔到車就應該加車.


Article 1: (Request 1)

不如將930延長至愉景及以灣碼為總站;將現有337改為930P.


可以叫948P


John--2100


Article 1: (Request 2)

> 948 冇能力轉全日, 有幾個原因:


> 1. 中記唔夠冷馬.


> 2. 九記唔想做. (淨係加車九記都唔想)


> 3. 天后冇坑.


> 4. L 廠又唔知要派幾多車行全日.


> 5. 平日全日 7-15 分太密, 7-20 都得. (現時服務時間 7, 其餘 15/20.)


948將於本年六月開始雙向服務,但不會做全日,原因只有一個,就


是機鐵與之路線重覆.


至於九記唔想做,做隻向是九記提出,


中巴直至98年1月尾仲未出98-2002路線展計劃(當時公眾未知中記俾人切)





HKBDB路線發展辦公室助理Jess


(相信有人俾我更適合做這個辦公室的主任,而我盡量不將自己設計新


線POST出來,只post正式巴士公司的新線)


Article 1: (Request 3)

> eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


>


> 應係 $15.30 吧?!


>


>


> 都唔錯, 剛剛可以填補荃灣地鐵站及大河道一段冇西隧巴士服務o既地區.


> 可以由城記做, 930 出車. 但可能因為收費較貴, 趕左人去坐地鐵/船.





所以至收$13.50,同地鐵搶客.


Article 1: (Request 4)

點解你淨係講荃青區,講屯門都好。


Article 2:

Re: 車vs車(續集)


輝仔 (c5124176@comp.polyu.edu.hk) at Mon Mar 16 21:31, 1998 said:


> 921 (yccheung@netfront.net) said:


> 1. CMB DA1-56 vs KMB AD1


> 2. 雞車 vs 鴨車


> 3. Dennis Condor vs Dragon


> 4. Volvo B6LE vs B10BLE


> 5. Toyota Coaster vs Mitsubishi Rosa


> 6. Dennis Trident vs Arrow


> 7. MCW Metrobus Mk1 vs Mk2


> 8. CTB 901-950 vs 951-1020


>


> 歡迎解答及提出新問題!!


John:


9.CMB VA 51-64 vs CTB 951-1020


10.KMB DM vs CMB SD/DD1


11.CMB BR1-2 vs KMB BL1-3


12.KMB AA vs CTB 1422-1436





---





13. 中記DA57~82 VS 九記AD281~360


14. 中記DA83~92 VS 九記3AD1~170


Article 2: (Request 1)

> 8. CTB 901-950 vs 951-1020





分別如下:


- 舊車用藍色地板 , 新車用黑色地板


- 舊車用黃色扶手 , 新車用紅色


- 舊車樓上車頭編號係黑色 , 新車用紅色(好似210X 咁)


- 舊車用圓形冷氣口, 新車用長方形





有漏請補充!


Article 2: (Request 2)

> 1. CMB DA1-56 vs KMB AD1


DA1外型同庭椅冇AD1咁似改裝車





> 2. 雞車 vs 鴨車


鴨車的引擎較接近師傅,所以叫'燒腳毛'.


雞車稍遠.





>歡迎解答及提出新問題!!


9.CMB VA 51-64 vs CTB 951-1020


10.KMB DM vs CMB SD/DD1


11.CMB BR1-2 vs KMB BL1-3


12.KMB AA vs CTB 1422-1436





John--2100


Article 2: (Request 3)

> 2. 雞車 vs 鴨車


好似尾擔有分別....


> 3. Dennis Condor vs Dragon


頭尾縣長


> 4. Volvo B6LE vs B10BLE


應是長短


> 6. Dennis Trident vs Arrow


底地台和非底地台


> 7. MCW Metrobus Mk1 vs Mk2


外型


8.Mitsubish MK 117 vs MK 217


(除油訌容量知冷氣)





半桶水的飛機


Article 2: (Request 4)

只是十二米Condor/Dragon熱狗的頭尾跨距


與其冷馬版十二米Condor/Dragon的頭尾跨距有別,


*(冇Condor十二米冷馬).


十一米Condor/Dragon全部頭尾跨距一樣.


10.4米,9.8米只有Dragon





三星號


Article 2: (Request 5)

> 2. 雞車 vs 鴨車





雞車的ENGINE細D,司機位和通道都闊D.


雞車仲有個”好處”:易反,對那些鐘意影反車的人是個大喜訊.:P





另外,請問點解九記D雞鴨有隔聲膜,中城嶼卻沒有?


點解中記D雞剎車時比九記的嘈十倍以上?





> 8. CTB 901-950 vs 951-1020


請問城記的十一米奧黏出到幾多?





Ivy


AV89--GL1183


Article 2: (Request 6)

> 請問城記的十一米奧黏出到幾多?





出到958, 但只有951-953 服務緊 , 其他擺o向廠.


Article 3:

Re: 〔IQ問題〕模擬881巴士之友


Walter Kwong (walter@school.net.hk) at Tue Mar 17 11:50, 1998 said:


> 第一條


> 1.哩條線o的車係〔聯合國成員〕, 十米,十一米,十二米都有.


> 2.哩條線一邊總站有坑迫, 但另一邊就要迫街.


> 3.哩條線去程唔會經過任何迴旋處, 但係回程就會經過兩個迴旋處,


> 而其中一個仲非常〔騎呢〕!


> 4.哩條係隧道線.(哪,好大貼士o架喇!)


113!





> 第二條


> 1.哩條線成日〔失〕.


> 2.哩條線o的車都係〔聯合國成員〕, 有九米,十一米,十二米,


> 不過好少會有十米車.


> 3.哩條線都幾長.


> 4.哩條線要上斜.


> 5.哩條線可以見到泳池.


> 6.(好喇!最大貼士!)哩條線有8仔.


606?


Article 3: (Request 1)

呢條線係城巴的七十二號,因為佢十米又有,十一米又有,十二米又


有,就係因為佢跳飛機。一邊有坑,就係摩頓台,而拍街的那邊,應


該係華貴總站。而由銅鑼灣去華貴,係要經兩個迴旋處的,但由華貴


去銅鑼灣,因為有橋,所以就冇啦!而迴旋處的位置在田灣海旁道的


。一個在華貴總站,是嗎?


呢條應該係一零六。九米車係中巴繁時車。十一米係冷馬,十二米係


九記冷馬同埋中記熱狗。佢都有八仔機,而佢亦見到柴灣泳池。


上斜,當然要啦,成條柴灣道長命斜。長都幾長架,個幾鐘先完嗎。





新板友


小豬


Article 3: (Request 2)

似乎好難估噤o窩, 好啦, 再俾o的貼士.





第一條113係錯, 因為佢來回程都經過迴旋處.


另外, 我無話過隧道線一定係過海隧道線呀.





第二條, 我講車型係而家服役僅車型, 170已用全冷(十一米)


以上, 所以唔o岩.


Article 3: (Request 3)

第一條, 用十米的隧道線只有九記城記, 城記又只有973,


973兩邊有坑, 不是了; 九記就只有113最似, 但113


出入彩虹站都經迴旋處啦, 而且又找不到那兩個迴旋處.


所以唔識答.





第二條的最大貼士'8仔', 我竟然唔明點解, 以為係


城記801-880, 但上面講過12米了, 點會再講?!


所以又唔識.





Ricky Chan


Article 3: (Request 4)

> 第二條





I guess it is route 170.





> 1.哩條線成日〔失〕.





Buses running on route 170 are often caught in traffic jams.





> 2.哩條線o的車都係〔聯合國成員〕, 有九米,十一米,十二米,


> 不過好少會有十米車.





Are you talking about the following buses:


MCW 9.7m


Dennis Dragon 11m


Dragon/Olympian 12m


Dennis Dragon 10.3m (rarely seen)





> 3.哩條線都幾長.





It's quite a long route.





> 4.哩條線要上斜.





Is it Waterloo Road (towards Lion Rock Tunnel)?





> 5.哩條線可以見到泳池.





The one outside TaiWai KCR?





> 6.(好喇!最大貼士!)哩條線有8?





170 accepts Octopus.





I'll think about question 1 later on. OK?


Article 3: (Request 5)

> 3.哩條線去程唔會經過任何迴旋處, 但係回程就會經過兩個迴旋處,


係咪118呢~


> 2.哩條線o的車都係〔聯合國成員〕, 有九> 米,十一米,十二米,


不過好少會有十米車.


(請問九米,十一米,十二米,係咪字軌車先~~~??)


唔該唔好用造字la~睇到我R頭,想估死人咩~~~


Article 3: (Request 6)

> 第一條





一一三





> 第二條





好惡估,又有九米車又有八仔


Article 3: (Request 7)

第一條似係113


第二條以係300


鼓油黨巴士議員-黃伯


Article 4:

錦田凹頭兩問


Joseph Ho (kchojbl@school.net.hk) at Mon Mar 16 20:12, 1998 said:


1)想問51是否循環線?如果不是,是否除錦田總站附近的乘客外,


錦田公路和錦上路的乘客袛能乘坐單程51進/出錦田?





2)昨日我乘76K經過凹頭迴旋處,見到附近的「湯」車場有三部前


城記坡柴、三部前中記珍寶及一部前中記MC(估計是MC1)。想問如


果我要從元朗前往,應乘坐76K在那兒下車?(勞煩各位多答一次)








Joseph Ho


VA36 _ GV6348


DA60 _ GX9848


Article 4: (Request 1)

個三部珍寶係LF25,LF230,LF245同MC1


但你都係唔好去,因我上次入去影相,


都俾人趕返出去!


如你真係想去,就過凹頭後第一個站落車.


Article 4: (Request 2)

MC1? MC1 is scrapped in Chai Wan, if you want to see her,


be quick! go to Chai Wan and see her remaining parts.





Benjamin


Article 4: (Request 3)

> CMB VA53 (newflyer@sympatico.ca) said:


> 無錯啊,佢唔係循環線。如果係由荃灣往錦上路的話,就要係荃錦公


> 路上的雷公田巴士站落車,轉綠小。


> 之但係錦田路根本上冇乜客,令很多51的乘客在雷公田下車,令多


> 部綠小都滿車。


> 而該區某些區議員已經掛晒banner要求改,但冇晒下聞。


51主要問題是在錦田不能掉頭,我以前經常去都知.


唯一是經錦公去錦田,經錦上返荃灣,或相反.


Article 4: (Request 4)

不是,如果回程要「吃自己」。


不一定要76K,276等途經此處的專利路線均有設站,向上水方向過了


凹頭迴旋處按鐘便可以了。





AV129


Article 5:

Re: Where are VA51-64??


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Mon Mar 16 19:58, 1998 said:


> VA51(Parnell Sing) (parnell@hkstar.com) said:


> Can anyone tell me which routes are VA51-64 serving on?





Beside the ones listed in the other thread, I assume you can found the rest on 116 and 680 or 690.


>


> Very worry on C.M.B. future's





I'm kind of worry too!





> Very hate C.T.B.,K.M.B.,Mr Ng(Transport Department)'s





> VA51(Parnell Sing)





I'm not sure you should blame CTB and KMB for the fate of CMB, as they were just providing 'better' service to the public than CMB and satisfying passengers' demand.


TD, (I'd rather blame Law Fan Chiu Fun) is really the one who is responsible for the death of CMB, along with Mr. Ngan's own management system.


I mean, Mr. Ngan decided not to purchase more A/C buses (in large quantity) several years ago when he knew that would be the trend. (Hence, at least offer 1-2 A/C bus on 914 for me so I wouldn't complain so much!)


Imagine if CMB carried out its '3-year plan' (proposed recently) 3 years ago, it would beat the hell out of KMB, as 85% of its fleet would be A/C buses by now! (so me and my friends and families won't complain anymore!)





100 Wong


Article 5: (Request 1)

Waiting New VAs in 116 is quite risk.....


680 is better than 116, but still there is some risk.(You may need to wait for 3 hours or more!)


I've never seen there was New VA on 690 .......





So, for VA6x, I suppose you found them in 111/101.... (Central?)


Article 5: (Request 2)

> 100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) said:


> TD, (I'd rather blame Law Fan Chiu Fun) is really the one who is responsible for the death of CMB, along with Mr. Ngan's own management system.





Termination of the franchise of CMB was approved by


'Chief Executive in Council' (行政長官會同行政會議), so


it is the policy of the whole Governmemt, only blaming


Mrs Law sounds a bit unfair.





--


Gakei!


Article 5: (Request 3)

> Thomas Kwong (twlkwong@netvigator.com) said:


>


> I don't even think that they will have a future......


> :(


> Um.............poor CMB.........





有少少灌水喎......兄台。





以我所知:


VA51-106


VA52-106


VA53-112


VA54-102


VA55-112


VA56-38 (?)


VA58-691(?)


Article 5: (Request 4)

> VA55-112


應該係111


VA59-102


Article 5: (Request 5)

前日見佢行111喎。


VA63好似行680/691。


Article 6:

Re: 九巴大細超


AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) at Tue Mar 17 03:25, 1998 said:


> 屯門之友 (chung921@hkstar.com) said:


> 點解話九巴大細超?因為佢服務全港甘多區,唯獨屯門區


> 冇12米巴士。


> 以前961開辨時,全部都係12米,仲有當時最新的3AD,


> 點知一陣間就冇晒,調晒過968。


> 968都好,經過屯門,行屯門公路。點知九記而家又將D


> 12米調晒去276P,只係死剩架68M柯打車,


> 同埋朝頭早69X。遲D三號幹線開埋,就全軍覆沒啦!


>


沒有所謂,因為十一米和十二米差不多,十一米道理上應更好力。





同樣是住在新界西的


AV129


Article 6: (Request 1)

對! 揹磅少點, 上斜快一點! 可惜的是, 九記的維修保養...
家陣九記不少十一米MCW 行起上來已經及得上
中華公司 MB 咁 '好力' 了...


Piccolo


Article 6: (Request 2)

> Gakei! (板務助理) (95261675d@polyu.edu.hk) said:


> 每行中文字數請勿超越三十字, 請用修改文章功能修改, 多謝合作.


>


> --


> 家祺!


OK!問題已經解決。


Article 6: (Request 3)

> 屯門之友 (chung921@hkstar.com) said:


> OK!問題已經解決。


咁咪重好,第一代3AV(四前速)一定冇你份.


之後o的3AV(2+2,3前速)同AV(2+2)冇乜分別.


冇o左3AD重好.老實講呀,如果59X,60X有3AD同AV(3+2),


你會搭邊隻先(第一天例外).3AD起步上斜冇力直路又慢.


個陣961行左二星期3AD之後就唔行都係


基於這個原因咋!66X(S3N302)司機親口同我講的.


Article 7:

Re: ***KMB Albions***


C Ma (madc@bp.com) at Mon Mar 16 20:06, 1998 said:


> Albion Expert (wmtam@sfu.ca) said:


> Albions were the most extensive single-deckers used by KMB from 1961-1992.


> As far as I remember, they serve mostly New Territories rural routes such as 51, 56, 64K, 69K, 90, etc.


>


> Can anyone tell me all the KMB routes that had used Albions? Especially those using Albion CH13AXL fleets...


There had been some description on one of the old Automobixx magazine (x主),


perhaps some broadmates can post that later on.





>


> Thank you!


>


> P.S.What did KMB used for cancelled routes: 19A, 32R, 57, 58, 59, 78A, 79A?


> Also, what did KMB used in the 1970s -- 1980s for: 73K, 74K, 75K, 77K, 78K, 79K, 91, 94, 99?





32R - Albion Chieftain (only type capable to U-turn at Shing Mun)


substiuted by Green Minibus


57/58 - Albion Victor VT17AL, became LRT Route 657/658?


59 - Daimler (a)/(b), Metrobus 9.5m


74K used Daimler (b)/(ba)/(bb), 75K used Daimler (c) before


converted to Victory 2


Article 7: (Request 1)

In the 70's 76k and 77k were 76 and 77.


Albion EVK41XL and VT23L were used.





I saw some CH13AXL on 72. Passengers were


jammed like sardines. I always feel bad for


route 72 passengers. For some reason no d/d


were used in the 70's.





Of course route 90 used CH13AXL.





Route 51 used EVK55CL starting in 1976 but an accident


caused them to be temporary replaced VT23L during


investigation. What a hard life for these buses as they


served 13 years on 51.





Route 3A, 3B and 15A used Albions. We all know why right?


Article 7: (Request 2)

> Albion Expert (wmtam@sfu.ca) said:


> Can anyone tell me all the KMB routes that had used Albions? Especially those using Albion CH13AXL fleets...





85, Before Victory II, it uses Albion. I have taken once!


Article 7: (Request 3)

> C Ma (madc@bp.com) said:


>


> 32R - Albion Chieftain (only type capable to U-turn at Shing Mun)


> substiuted by Green Minibus





CHieftain? Is that CH13AXL??








> 57/58 - Albion Victor VT17AL, became LRT Route 657/658?





No! They are substituted by green maxicabs 34 and 35, serving Un Long (Tai Fung St.) --- Pak Nai & Sha Kiu (Tsim Bei Tsui) respectively. By the way, I took minibus 35 to Tsim Bei Tsui last April, there was no way 58 could use VT17AL, the road was so narrow. Maybe it used Chieftain instead???





> 59 - Daimler (a)/(b), Metrobus 9.5m





I knew 59 used to have destination at Pak Kok, where is that? Is Pak Kok Butterfly Estate now?





> 74K used Daimler (b)/(ba)/(bb), 75K used Daimler (c) before


> converted to Victory 2





>What did KMB used for 75R in the 1980s?


Article 7: (Request 4)

> I knew 59 used to have destination at Pak Kok, where is that? Is Pak Kok Butterfly Estate now?


>


Pak Kok is a village but demolished around 1982 since the Lung Mun Road was expanded.


Article 8:

Re: 收費標準一問


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) at Mon Mar 16 17:44, 1998 said:


> AV89 (ngpt@netvigator.com) said:


> 請問巴士車費有什麼準則?


> 九記dR線,馬埸,掃墓線,N線都比普通線貴,


> 而嶼巴仲犀利,假日乘機起價!





嶼巴若果唔係假日加咁多, 肯定蝕本啦! 閒日有幾多人去寶蓮寺, 去東涌, 去大澳?





> 另外,九記234X點解比30X貴?





可能路程較長, 剛剛跨過一個收費標準.





> 30X轉全冷時,234X,230X的車費會否調低?





要擦水晶球先知 lu....





> 72X轉全冷時,271會否調低車費?





271 去到尖沙咀喎, 做乜要減價?


Article 8: (Request 1)

> Ricky Chan (95098987d@polyu.edu.hk) said:


>


> 九記空調巴士收費差不多全部都定低於收費標準,


> 收費可以說是'冇皇管', 故此 30X 與 234X 的收費


> 差別未必與此有關.


>


> 另巴士公司的收費標準可參考:


> 619 Bus Page


>


> Ricky Chan





但根據九巴車費表顯示 , 234X和30X 空調車費現在是一樣 .





九巴空調車費表


Article 8: (Request 2)

據講中巴亦有冷氣線係 below scaled fare,780 同 788 o既冷氣價


應該高過而家o個個標準收費 ($6.2) 幾蚊。





今朝 9 點幾搭 5 號坐 368,出到中環已經俾後面架車追到o既 417


P.S. 放學返屋企坐到 LF32,好正!


Article 8: (Request 3)

我在93年已留意新界區的過海巴士線的收費:





點解94年3月之前


690P,336,337,348收$11.00,94年3月後大幅加15%收$13.00


170收$12.00,94年3月後,祇加8%收$13.00


182,305,334,就原封不動收$13.00





*****我祇對94年的加幅有懷疑**************


當時對荃灣,沙田好,對葵涌,將軍澳唔好


運豬署大細超.








The Eastern County Magistrate


Article 9:

Re: 城隧轉車站轉馬場巴士


Piccolo (romeo.no.piccolo%f192.n1000.z128@iconet.hongkong.net) at Tue Mar 17 01:40, 1998 said:


> 輕鐵敵人 (burnlt@netvigator.com) said:


> 輕鐵敵人


> 九記云乘客在城隧轉車往葵青荃灣美孚都係免費,


> 問題1:葵芳地鐵是否屬葵青區?如果'是',


> 問題2:城隧搭848往葵芳應收費多少?如果'$0',


> 問題3:司機要收我全程錢($23.60)該怎麼辦?


發死發就唔知, 我搭過發淥發, 城隧轉車竟有人上車,
個司機要佢俾足錢, 個客照付如儀!!! 厲害!

Piccolo


Article 9: (Request 1)

> eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


> 冇人叫你坐 848 架喎! 你坐 46X 嚮葵涌道落車行過去地鐵站唔會好辛苦你咋?


> 都唔明香港硬係有 D 人鍾意鬥氣, 跟住少少事就搵野黎鬧, 唯恐天下不亂.





我都唔覺得原文係搵野黎鬧, 我覺得三題都係問題黎個喎,


仲係很值得討論的問題添. 其實我都未坐過 848, 見到都想


坐下.





回正題, 初初開城隧轉車站時的確可以免費轉 848 往葵芳,


但睇番近年收費表又冇寫明, 所以我都唔知答案,


不如打去問熱線員囉, 如果真係免費可順便投訴該車嘛.





Ricky Chan


Article 9: (Request 2)

輕鐵敵人 (burnlt@netvigator.com) said:


> 都開o左車出o黎啦,唔爭在比人免費轉車係唔係呀?





咁你以後咪唔好坐呢 D 車囉!


Article 10:

亞歷山大「R」


Joseph Ho (kchojbl@school.net.hk) at Mon Mar 16 20:13, 1998 said:


想問ME與BL/S3BL的亞歷山大車身高度?兩者相差多少?





雖然ME的車身是比S3BL高,但它上層地台與車頂的距離竟然比S3BL矮


,它又不是高地台巴士,即是它的下層頭部空間是非常闊落的,對嗎











覺得ME車身過高的





Joseph


GV6348


GX9848


Article 10: (Request 1)

> 輝仔 (c5124176@comp.polyu.edu.hk) said:


>


> 撇開實際是否可能不講. 將中記批小寶寶/雞Rebody 亞記R-type


> body在技術上是否可行?





我估得o既,珍寶裝個Olympian式o既R車身,LV裝個英國部分Alisa用o既


R車身。





不過應該唔少錢。





> 之前都有紅番頭啦!


Article 10: (Request 2)

> AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) said:


> 對,所以上層車尾未有裝上座椅。





我講由車頭到車尾都係。








Joseph Ho


Article 11:

問九巴的珍寶


BR4474 (c6091596@comp.polyu.edu.hk) at Mon Mar 16 20:43, 1998 said:


一) 請問九巴現在仍有多少輛訓練巴士是珍寶(2D及D)呢?


二) 請問九巴現在有多少輛珍寶(2D及D)巴士呢?


(包括一些可以移動但已除牌的巴士, 例如: 4961


三) 請問現在有多少輛珍寶(2D及D)巴士曾屬九巴車隊,


但現在已不屬九巴呢?





例如: D716, D815, D922, D931, D989, D1007


Article 11: (Request 1)

D815, D931, D1007呢三架響必達!





必達人Ivor Fung!


Article 11: (Request 2)

> John--2100 (jmtng@hknet.com) said:





> 咁D/2D訓練車是否都係必達?





2D訓練車就〔當刀〕晒喇,D訓練車就仲有,不過原車


唔多出名,唔知邊架打邊架咯~~


Article 11: (Request 3)

> BR4474 (c6091596@comp.polyu.edu.hk) said:


> 一) 請問九巴現在仍有多少輛訓練巴士是珍寶(2D及D)呢?


> 二) 請問九巴現在有多少輛珍寶(2D及D)巴士呢?


> (包括一些可以移動但已除牌的巴士, 例如: 4961


> 三) 請問現在有多少輛珍寶(2D及D)巴士曾屬九巴車隊,


> 但現在已不屬九巴呢?


>


> 例如: D716, D815, D922, D931, D989, D1007





一)NO,所有2D/D早於95--96年退役.


二)如上題,珍寶巳消失於KMB,但中國大連就有.


Article 12:

Re: ME1最新消息!


GU8933 (w0108@netvigator.com) at Mon Mar 16 23:28, 1998 said:


> G544JACKY (g544myk@hkschool.net) said:


> 從我一些在屯門的朋友話,


> ME1已經由屯門廠二樓調了


> 落地下停放,總好似話個尾非


> 常新淨,似翻0左油0甘!!唔知


> 係唔係已經C.O.F.完呢?





是否會復出???


GU8933


Article 12: (Request 1)

我都希望係!


如果有人見到ME1出翻離,


可唔可以話聲俾我聽!


Article 12: (Request 2)

我非常懷念ME1行68A陣時。


Article 12: (Request 3)

唔知ME1係唔係用番初出時的車身顏危呢?


另外,根據陳生的香港巴士識別,ME1己退役,會唔會當古典巴士保存佢呢?





John--2100


Article 13:

216R屯門市中心至上水東鐵站


AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) at Tue Mar 17 04:16, 1998 said:


九巴已定了來往屯門市中心上水東鐵站261R的收費為$16.80,未


知能否和只收$13.00綠跑巴競爭呢?





另外,各位要從九巴屯門80廠往上水的板友注意,綠跑巴44A之總站


已由原來屯門響事會路嘉喜酒樓外,遷往河傍街了,即剛好80廠對面





非常鳴謝Jess兄提供此收費資料。





AV129


Article 13: (Request 1)

> Mr Fleet (k336@netvigator.com) said:


> >


> $16.80太貴了。


> 如果在屯門搭九廣輕鐵去元朗,再轉乘76K、77K、276或276P去


> 上水,車費不超過$13.00。所以261R貴過綠頂小巴是難以與綠頂


> 小巴競爭的。


> Mr Fleet.


>


還有一樣更重要的一點,便是261R從屯門市中心開出是繞經整個屯門


西,行車時間至少比綠跑巴44至少多20分鐘,除非綠跑巴滿座,否則


真要「拍烏蠅」了。





一邊聽Titanic又一邊用電腦的


AV129


Article 13: (Request 2)

究竟係 216R 定係 261R?


Article 14:

Re: 三軸丹尼斯統治者過隧道●利蘭鐵達的用家


Busman (b9503033@ln.edu.hk) at Tue Mar 17 11:41, 1998 said:


> AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) said:


> 三軸丹尼斯統治者過隧道


>


> 眾所周知,三軸的丹尼斯統治者的中軸只是假軸﹝DM和DA便不清楚了


> ﹞,那但他們過隧道是不是應該只作兩軸雙層巴士看待呢?


>


> 請問有沒有板友知道最新一代的三軸丹尼斯統治者是不是假軸呢?


>


> 利蘭鐵達的用家


>


> 請問各位板友,利蘭鐵達除了英國本土和香港外,還有沒有其他國家


> 使用呢?那又是甚麼版本呢?


>


> P S:懇請九廣輕鐵代表﹝辛格﹞兄此處,謝謝!


>


> 正在聽TITANIC CD的


> AV129


好似就冇了,因為那時候有人說中巴的TITAN(TC1)是唯一部出口的TITAN





BUSMAN




Article 14: (Request 1)

它們被視為三軸車,所以過海底隧道要付三軸車隧道費。


將要考A-Level的Mr Fleet.


Article 15:

Re: Request: Price Comparison on Bus Models


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Mon Mar 16 22:39, 1998 said:


> Dennis Law (ctb2500@upnaway.com) said:


> I've never imagined that I can eventually find a store here in Perth, Western Australia, which sells bus models from Hong Kong. (Although not all types of models are available here.)


> However, I'm not familiar with the price level of bus models in Hong Kong. That's why I would like to post a list of their prices here in Perth as follows:


>


> KMB's AA52:AUD$39.95


> KMB's AD247('97 Re-unification):AUD$42.95


> KMB's AD7455('97 open topper):AUD$42.95


> KMB's Xmas bus:AUD$42.95


> CTB's Dart (1419):AUD$32.95


>


> Compared with the price level in Hong Kong, is it worthy for me to buy them here? Please give me some comments. Thank you!





Correct me if I'm wrong, I think the prices in Australia is actually fairly reasonable, if not a bargain!





For Darts, I think I paid HK$248 last X'mas and $HK300+ (sorry I forgot) for AD247.


If the updated currency of A$1=HK$5.229 is correct, that means you're paying at most the same, if not less than, the price in Hong Kong.





100 Wong


Article 15: (Request 1)

> Thomas Kwong (twlkwong@netvigator.com) said:


> There are AD (Dennis Dragon 11 metre) models for sale?!?!?!


> which company are they made by?





OOPs, sorry sorry, I know, not the Dragons, but the OTHER ADs, sorry again, please ignore my last message.......


Article 16:

Re: 有誰會參加本週日的退役雞車牛河?


小丸子可能會去VA51 TONG (k5959585@hkschool.net) at Mon Mar 16 22:17, 1998 said:


> JACKY,3AD1 (williamc@tsl.net.hk) said:


>


> 巴士迷WORLD於本週日舉辨雞車牛河,不知各位是該會板友的 有沒有參加,我就巳報了名.你們會帶些甚麼呢?


> 到時見!


>


> PS.$38會否大貴呢?





小弟可能會去,因為九記雞車難得在港島區行走:








VA51 TONG HN8481


(LV97 CM7009)


Article 16: (Request 1)

Could you give me the detail about it? Since I'm a member Bus Fan World and I did not receive any notice about this activity.


Thank you





A340


Article 17:

Re: 問九巴非空調巴士線


JACKY,3AD1 (williamc@tsl.net.hk) at Mon Mar 16 20:50, 1998 said:





> BR4474 (c6091596@comp.polyu.edu.hk) said:


> 請問九巴的102, 104, 680, 690分別會於何時轉全空調巴士?





102,104巳轉全空調


680鷹還有一輛


690就有兩,三輛.


Article 17: (Request 1)

> eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


>


> 102, 104 已經在二月起轉左.


> 690 睇怕有排. 690 應該要九月城記接辦中記時段後改.





680 要睇對家點玩.


如對家擺明要玩全冷, 咁玩全冷嘮.


大家都知 九記 派車行隧道線係唔衰得俾對家嘛


1/9/98 揭盅


Article 18:

Re: 問車牌


Dennis Law (ctb2500@upnaway.com) at Mon Mar 16 18:11, 1998 said:


> 921 (yccheung@netfront.net) said:


> 請問車牌OF:


>CTB


>3. 1501





HP6440





>4. 2100-2111





2100:HM1086


2102:HN3697


2103:HN5545


2105:HN9651


2106:HN4867


2107:HN8465


(Further addition of information is welcomed!)





>KMB ATR1





HJ2127





>LWB Tridents





HM6894, HM6990, HM8416, HN745, HN1655, HN2157, HN2195, HN3876, HN4077, HN4195, HN2951, HN3158, HN6631 ... (And more...)


Article 18: (Request 1)

> CMB VA51-VA64





請睇呢度


Article 19:

中記傑作-MB28的鬼面罩


WingKit (tslmis@hkstar.com) at Mon Mar 16 14:42, 1998 said:


大家有冇見過MB28個鬼面罩呢?


中記加左自製既MCW字樣在原有水牌位置, 字體是在LV左上方CMB那種,


o華….


感覺上令這部MB更呈老態. 亦可能令當年設計這個鬼面罩的人暈倒地上…





唔知點解, 當堂飽飽滯滯的


WingKit


Article 19: (Request 1)

> MB28?! Wasn't it withdrawn in December 1996 after a crash already?





咦? 唔通我睇錯Fleet No? 這部車是行914的. 我前晚在旺角見到. 等我再睇清楚先.





多謝指正.





WingKit


Article 20:

超級無敵估估下!!!


S3BL423 (ckcling@netvigator.com) at Tue Mar 17 01:45, 1998 said:


你地估下以下興奮的鏡頭是由那隻條路線的車上拍下去的??


> S3bl423 (ckcling@netvigator.com) said:


> 01


02


03


04


Article 20: (Request 1)

全部由968的富豪奧林克拍下去。





AV129


Article 21:

請問巴士油價多少?


Y.Y (ericneil@netvigator.com) at Tue Mar 17 01:11, 1998 said:


請問各位,大家都知道現時九巴,中巴,城巴等所用的油都係免稅的,


但小弟想知道,每公升油係多少價錢呢?





仲有就係,每公升油在一架空調雙層巴士可行多少公里呢?


Article 22:

壞車續部捉


S3bl423 (ckcling@netvigator.com) at Tue Mar 17 01:29, 1998 said:


BL3 正呀!!


AL133 唐安琪好靚呀!!


s3bl63 (紅雙喜)


AL147 上標油


S3M188


M42


S3N323


Article 23:

About my 2 wrong actions


VA51(Parnell Sing) (parnell@hkstar.com) at Tue Mar 17 00:18, 1998 said:


By the wrong being on 15-3-98 and ??-1-98,I can't stand 'no comments' to all people.I must explain what really happened and why I did it.


Let me explain the 'photos stolen' on ??-1-98. At that day's morning,I read Colin's I.B.X. page and discovered some photos which have not marked.And I read Unique 260,CMB R.25 page.....etc.I discovered these photos are showed as same as I.B.X.'s!I expected that those photos were copied from internet news and I copy them on my page also.When they sent mail to me to tell me that I did a worst thing,I delete them quickly and reward a mail to say sorry,and promised that I won't do that again.But they posted this actions onto everywhere(Except Colin reward a mail to me to explain that those photos were taken by Kit.And tell me something about '知X產權',and I understand those words.)......


And yesterday,I received a mail about a 'game' from a person called 'Ken'.In the mail,I had to send to everyone after I tested this file.When I tested that it is safe and I send it to all people.At that time,I was uploading my page but nothing happened.Then tomorrow,I received someone's message that I bomb someone's e-mail box,when I check,I discover 4 mails was tell me about that.I know that the file just 895KB large!How can it bombed your e-mail box??Did I tell you open it when you editing homepage!?I can tell all people who has 3MB e-mail box space that : NO !!!!!!Isn't it really my wrong!?What between this file and my page!?Why you tell people to 'cut' my link??


I don't want to tell who are right,who are wrong.I just want to tell you(DA8? , Ki?) : I won't sent anything to you,include words!





Feel very unfair on me's


VA51(Parnell Sing)


Article 23: (Request 1)

以後凡有類似涉嫌炸人貓箱等私人事務, 請用醫貓解決, 或者向其 ISP 求助,


本板是巴士討論區, 在此討論巴士網頁的知識產權, 保安問題還勉強仲稱得上


跟巴士有丁點關連, 如果連個別板友的個人操守也要在此討論的話, 我不知板


主要申請幾多個戶口至夠放這麼多的文章.





不要把這裡當成公審法庭, 有人在擊鼓鳴冤, 有人在申辯, 又有旁聽者依牙


鬆槓 ... 唉! 唔該幫幫忙啦, 呢度講巴士o架!





--


家祺!


Article 24:

**99 Nai Chung --- Sai Kung***


Albion Expert (wmtam@sfu.ca) at Mon Mar 16 23:38, 1998 said:





What did KMB used when 99 first started? Albion 55???


Article 25:

Re: 3N 訓練車


S3BL423 (ckcling@netvigator.com) at Tue Mar 17 01:58, 1998 said:


> GU8933 (w0108@netvigator.com) said:


> 請問上次板友說的3N訓練車 , 是否3N1?


> 還有我聽人講 3N2及3N3 都會改做訓練車.


> 唔知各板友有什麼意見??


都話可能唔係3N2!!我影左冇耐咋


Article 26:

Re: 城巴屋村線


丁蟹 Simon Lee (rlee@netvigator.com) at Tue Mar 17 00:20, 1998 said:


> Colin Chang (kalim@netvigator.com) said:


> 有板友在討論90R及97R時提出上述路線一架車有10-30個客都賺錢,


> 我比較懷疑。因為非專利車一升油要$6.75(減價後),比專利車兩


> 三蚊一升差好遠,成本都好高o下。


我亦同意村長的講法, 因為專利巴士用免稅油可以降低成本,


但非專利巴士的油費貴, 成本高. 唔知「貝殼」油站會不會給discount


俾城巴這個「長期顧客」呢?





> 另外,大家都知道城巴經營屋村巴士o既手法同其他公司唔同,佢


> 一般都係行全日(仲要兩工),咁繁忙時間賺o既究竟可唔可以cover


> 到非繁忙時間蝕o既呢?已前城巴未有專利線時,好似蝕得好緊要,


> 唔知係咪同呢點有關呢?


部份路線可以cover, 如62R, 88R, 901R, 呢3條線繁忙時間客量好多


人搭. 聽一些城巴北區師傅講, 以前北區蝕到好緊要, 主要係網絡細


及經營成本高, 以當年所有非專利巴士公司比較, 城巴北區支出好大.





快將會考的


丁蟹 Simon Lee


Article 27:

Advisement:83K GGG


Spice Boy (tsesh@hkstar.com) at Mon Mar 16 22:40, 1998 said:


83K Bus Page add GGG


Guess Guess Game!





Go there to guess la





S.B


3AD10


Article 28:

有冇九巴、城巴、龍運及新大嶼山巴士之歷史


Nicholas Louie (nichlas@netvigator.com) at Mon Mar 16 22:29, 1998 said:


如題,希望各界好友於數天內說給我


(你E-mail給我or到此頁回覆也可)


請於1998年3月24日(星期二)前通知,因本人3月31日要交Project


Thank You very much!!!


Article 29:

新記車內的膠牌


STDM36 (dickson2@macau.ctm.net) at Mon Mar 16 21:50, 1998 said:


剛才看完醫生, 搭 5號回家時, 竟然來了架豐田 Coaster (C12).


我上了車之後, 見到車頭放了七八個不同路線的膠牌! 有 3A, 34...


....數之不盡! 這是用來行駛不同的路時在車頭方置不同的膠牌!


可見新記的跳飛機制度已經跟得上城記哪樣嚴重.





患感冒的 STDM36



Article 30:

講開隧道錢


輝仔 (c5124176@comp.polyu.edu.hk) at Mon Mar 16 21:48, 1998 said:


引自thread 7504 article 9





> 417 (96006257@plink.cityu.edu.hk) said:


>


> 又唔一定純綷係 11 號 [手羅] 晒o的車o既,我見o既 973 都好少話


> 少客到唔夠俾隧道錢(假設車上所有人都係俾o左全費)。





用單層比雙層過各大隧道會俾少幾多隧道費? 雙層多條軸,


重型車每多條軸都要計多D隧道費......


Article 31:

14S 睇真o的


S3BL423 (ckcling@netvigator.com) at Tue Mar 17 01:40, 1998 said:


14S 共有15部,全AM行走.編號由1-15


最突出是這部:編號是11.


AM100


Article 32:

暗地售地的預言!


STDM36 (dickson2@macau.ctm.net) at Mon Mar 16 21:36, 1998 said:


在近日! 李超人都以超低價收購了馬鞍山和尖沙咀地皮. 不知道這


暗示了港巴會容易投得八十八條專利巴士線?!





病了的 STDM36


Article 33:

Re: 問中記寶寶


Tung (tomchen@netvigator.com) at Tue Mar 17 04:11, 1998 said:


> JACKY,3AD1 (williamc@tsl.net.hk) said:


>


> 請問至98年3月止,中記尚有多少山大寶寶,和是否只餘下只下


> NO的[園]頂寶.


> LF32--36,38





圓頂得番33,35,38


Article 34:

【 網 頁 廣 告] 巴士專線加相 !


K.W.B. (dx2437@netvigator.com) at Mon Mar 16 21:13, 1998 said:





巴士大集會1998畫廊而加相,歡迎到來參觀 .





http://home.netvigator.com/~dx2437/main.html


Article 35:

城記 930 改道??


Eric Lo (ericnet@hkstar.com) at Mon Mar 16 20:39, 1998 said:


近日發現 930 出金鐘後, 不是經紅棉路入皇后大道中, 轉畢打街,


而是由軍器廠街入夏愨道, 經天橋直落干諾道中.





請問 930 是否更改路線呢?





西隧及新機場司司長


Eric Lo


Article 35: (Request 1)

有時930會有打仗車到干諾道中載客,所以不行紅棉路.


(上個月見過,因此推測)





John--2100


Article 36:

***45H***


Albion Expert (wmtam@sfu.ca) at Mon Mar 16 19:54, 1998 said:





KMB used to run this route called 45H:





Lai Chi Kok (??) --- Princess Margaret Hospital





(1) What did KMB used to run this route, Albions 55???


(2) When did it get cancelled?


(3) How much was the fare?


Article 37:

***73K, 78K, 79K***


Albion Expert (wmtam@sfu.ca) at Mon Mar 16 19:50, 1998 said:





Can anyone tell me if 73K, 78K, and 79K had ever used Albions????





If not, what did they used when these routes first started?


Article 38:

問九巴訓練雞及其他


BR4474 (c6091596@comp.polyu.edu.hk) at Mon Mar 16 20:36, 1998 said:








九巴現在有幾架訓練雞?


九巴還有雞會改為訓練車嗎?


九巴還有雞既不是訓練車, 又不會短期內退役嗎?


九巴有沒有一些可以駕駛/ 移動但已退役的雞呢? (例: 4961)


Article 39:

A31巴士網頁會員大贈送!


Matthew Wong--a31 (wong3553@hkschool.net) at Mon Mar 16 18:41, 1998 said:


由於技術問題,A31網頁的巴士相簿真正完成,請各位參觀,自作路線已更新,成為會員贈送AV180(電子牌)行30x柑片一張!





網址http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/4398/a31.htm



請與本頁聯盟


E-mail to newbmb@hotmail.com


Article 40:

A31網址


Matthew Wong--a31 (wong3553@hkschool.net) at Mon Mar 16 18:43, 1998 said:


網址為http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/4398/a31.htm


Article 40: (Request 1)

1. 請 MATTHEW WONG 修改 7517-1 號文章, 刪除文中錯誤的 HTML TAGS.


2. 使用 HTML TAGS 請小心, 唔係好識就唔好亂用


3. 請勿一文多貼, 善用修改文章功能





多謝合作





--


家祺!


Article 41:

Re: 昨日出院 + 乘車所感


AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) at Mon Mar 16 19:38, 1998 said:


> 肥榮 (s967798@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk) said:


> 住了個多月醫院, 終於可以出院.


>


> 昨天乘車回家, 赫然發現現在巴士佔了大部分路面! 在巴士眾多的彌敦道, 巴士的


> 車龍望不見盡頭! 我不禁想: 四間專利巴士公司, 是否太多呢? 此外, 各巴士公


> 司為了客量而不斷擴充車隊, 香港的路面又能否負荷呢?


>


你言下之意是否表示應該由「香港聯合巴士」經營新路線呢?因為如


果是其他巴士公司經營,香港仍是四間專利巴士公司﹝不計龍運在內


﹞,只有這樣才能令「實際」上的專利巴士公司數目減少。





> 前排知道有多個財團競逐中巴的路線, 依我看不如交回中巴好了, 不知各位同意否?


> 因為我覺得中巴是不斷有改善服務的. 最少我看到有很多新車出廠呢!


>


十四輛新車在很多人的心目中已是非常少的。





> 最後, 請管理人原諒. 我很久沒有回來, 一回來便發現板友在此互相謾罵, 看來板


> 內的情況仍沒甚改善, 使我有點失望. 我不算是老臣子, 本來不應過份批評板友,


> 但情況真的是......


>


AV129


Article 42:

Re: 買'食送'時間不要在屯元搭巴士往區內


AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) at Mon Mar 16 18:50, 1998 said:


> 輕鐵敵人 (burnlt@netvigator.com) said:


> 輕鐵敵人


> 車箱定必充滿魚腥味,菜水滿地流.因為師奶寧搭巴士(不是九廣巴士)


> 不搭輕鐵,就算搭輕鐵都只搭到有得轉巴士o既地方,


> 跟住轉巴士.據D卡佬話佢地貪平(分段收費)貪快(快過廢鐵),


> 唔知大家有冇見過這些情形?


>


最好也是儘量避免乘九廣輕鐵,要多儘量乘巴士,事實已經証明一切


了。





AV129


Article 43:

支持原創.反對抄襲 Banner 活動


卿姐Billy Ho (abswksp@school.net.hk) at Mon Mar 16 17:01, 1998 said:


支持原創.反對抄襲 Banner 活動





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Article 44:

Re: 九巴資料何處從?


DA54 (da54@netteens.net) at Mon Mar 16 19:30, 1998 said:


> 88K (b9505044@ln.edu.hk) said:


> 小弟欲取下列九巴和龍運資料:救急用,


> 究竟從那裹找到?


> 1) 1995-1997 年報


> 2) 財政報告(1995-1997)


> 3) 公司策略


> 無言感激!





年報(包括中、九)應可在大會堂九樓參考圖書館搵到!





琴日去果度睇中記九七年報的 D.Wong 54


Article 45:

Re: 九巴fax.no


AV340--進 (ee_ckcab@stu.ust.hk) at Mon Mar 16 15:18, 1998 said:


> 88K (b9505044@ln.edu.hk) said:


> 邊個知幾號?


> thanks!!





2745 0600.





--HM3044