19981207




Articles on 7th December, 1998.

Today's Articles: 38.


Articles' Numbers: (19981207_01-38)





Article 1:

Re: 〔討論〕:邊條線頭車最好生意?


Raymond (a1212122@netvigator.com) from hhtam029008.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 22:52, 1998 said:


> Sunba (akyl@rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au) said:


> 38 置富方向 (三年前lu...):伙計車嘛!





新巴:81A,多人多到頂閘,另外9月1日既N8(官方儀式既第一班


新巴)灣仔方向頭班車都好多人坐o架





> Sunba





好想106,118有字軌金躉既Raymond


Article 1: (Request 1)

入東涌的E線,因為有大量地盤工人入東涌上班.





S3N370,GD605


ICQ#:22731655


Article 1: (Request 2)

> army (army@netteens.net) said:


>


> 68X 超級多人,多人多到頂閘





64K頭班AM


51頭班沙仔,05:40個班,未有251M前


Article 1: (Request 3)

頭班A22往機場


Article 2:

Re: D 會走老


HD199 (busman@hkabc.net) from mp27308.hknet.com at Sun Dec 6 22:12, 1998 said:


> MCW (leeootsse@ctimail.com) said:


> 小心入會 ! 必達:


> 本人在三‧四月時在必達巴士迷會用幾百元訂了中巴站牌,


> 到今天都未有貸.數月來連會訊都冇?劉生:你在香港嗎!數月來一





A/B/C 會未摺,可能D會摺左


又有可能劉生又去大嶼山渡假兩年





記住,D for dollar


Article 2: (Request 1)

> MCW (leeootsse@ctimail.com) said:


> 小心入會 ! 必達:


> 本人


貼文相支有冇板友收到貸,


不是造文,幾百元,我當唔見左講完!


Article 2: (Request 2)

> Marshall (marcy001@netvigator.com) said:


>


> 唔係嗎,佢先做完新巴做完站牌,我估唔會嗎?


> 不過佢個底咁差,誠信都有少少問題.


> 死喇!我好驚呀.


> 可以今次唔係大嶼山而赤柱





我 覺 得 未 件 事 未 清 楚 之 前 ,


大 家 唔 好 亂 估 亂 講 , 以 致 散 播 任 何 不 利 他 人 或 侮 辱 性 字 句 ,


「 人 必 先 自 重 , 然 後 人 重 之 ! 」


你 個 人 都 有 番 咁 大 個 咯 .....


雖 不 致 於 壓 制 言 論 , 但 敬 希 小 心 言 論 .


Article 2: (Request 3)

> Eddie Lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


>


> 我發覺呢, 本板係有某 D 人唔知之前係咪同必達會有過轇轕,


> 總之之後必達會有乜野芝麻綠豆野佢地就大造文章, 乘機發放假消息....


> 而且亦又因為劉先生個人而發出好多不必要o既誤導文章.


我覺得漢華兄你知唔知劉先生個為人,我唔係針對人,而係針對事,


我係劉先生道訂站牌,到而家都未攪到,唔知呢個人想點!!!


> 雖然我八月頭話入會但家陣張票都未入數, 但奉勸某些人睇野唔該獨立 D.


> 又冇真憑實據, 成日嚮度單單打打, 咁又點o者?


呢個人已經收了錢0


還有方幫呢個人 站牌,都未捭,後來要叫捭,先捭錢,呢個人不知所謂0


Article 2: (Request 4)

咁多個月, 你有冇從其他有效途徑去查詢? 追討? 索償?



Article 2: (Request 5)

似乎你係之前「賴」過野而再向劉先生訂貨?


咁你明知劉先生「個底咁好」仲去幫襯佢, 真係唔知邊個有問題喇.


呢句完全唔明你講乜.





即係咁囉, 我都明香港人有個怪習慣, 就係邊做邊鬧. 睇電視又係咁,


套戲差又要睇又要嘈, 估唔到入巴士迷會都係咁, 明知人地差, 手腳慢,


又唔退會續會, 為左慳幾十蚊買架模型仲要受氣.


---


本月金句:「巴士狂熱」量力而為


Article 2: (Request 6)

我 明 白 你 既 處 境 , 但 首 先 我 要 講 既 係 :


  板 友 不 負 責 任 的 侮 辱 性 言 論 !


必 達 會 既 做 事 方 針 我 唔 清 楚 ,


但 消 費 者 委 員 會 曾 經 對 郵 購 貨 品 上 作 出 發 表 ,


謂 其 有 一 定 程 度 上 既 風 險 , 消 費 者 應 有 某 程 度 上 既 心 理 準 備 .....


但 記 住 , 我 要 講 既 係 Marshall 等 等 數 人 既 不 負 責 任 言 論 ,


完 全 係 唔 理 性 同 埋 一 廂 情 願 既 想 法 !


而 且 亦 帶 出 以 往 本 板 不 良 風 氣 .....


我 好 少 對 各 會 作 出 言 論 , 惟 見 板 友 們 既 言 論 而 感 無 奈 !


Article 2: (Request 7)

其 實 有 時 D 板 友 真 係 好 過 份 ,


無 風 起 浪 不 特 止 , 胡 亂 發 放 消 息 而 大 造 文 章 更 見 其 本 性 ,


我 都 係 必 達 會 會 員 , 我 自 己 都 想 知 該 會 出 左 咩 事 ,


但 嚮 事 件 未 明 朗 化 之 前 我 都 唔 會 胡 亂 公 開 質 疑 他 人 ,


因 為 對 他 人 並 不 公 平 .


至 於 在 本 板 形 成 既 怪 風 氣 ,


各 板 友 真 係 要 認 真 檢 討 , 對 自 己 作 出 反 省 !


今 次 事 件 已 經 唔 係 第 一 次 , 之 前 :


  迷 會 遲 遲 未 有 會 訊 ;


  世 界 會 遲 遲 未 出 BusFocus ;


  刀 疤 會 遲 遲 未 通 知 領 取 模 型 等 等 .....


這 一 切 一 切 , 究 竟 可 以 表 現 出 D 咩 呢 ?


有 時 見 D 板 友 :


  冇 會 員 通 訊 就 鬧 , 有 車 訂 就 聲 都 冇 ,


  成 日 以 為 俾 左 會 費 就 大 晒 咁 ,


  唔 通 做 幹 事 就 好 似 欠 左 佢 咁 咩 .....


我 唔 係 咩 咩 大 會 幹 事 ,


但 相 信 D 幹 事 同 個 會 做 野 都 幾 淡 !!!


Article 2: (Request 8)

唔止必達會, 其他會都係咁, o的人好似以為俾o左錢就大晒咁, 雖然佢地


好多時都幫唔落, 但係都唔駛踩到咁盡, 或者人地有苦衷呢.


Article 2: (Request 9)

我見到佢好似搬O左去屯門海翠花園5座24樓......


個樣真係好似...


Article 3:

Re: 【為大家著想】請提供有嚴重意外記錄的巴士


S3BL400 (tangeric@netvigator.com) from hhtam023089.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 22:18, 1998 said:


> 叻霸佳 (letchan@netvigator.com) said:


> 如題︰認住0的編號,唔趕時間諗下先上車


> 中巴︰DL21(111),翻車


> 城巴︰184(N89R),左邊車身割開


> 城巴︰202(512),割頂





仲有九記AV112同AV1囉!





S3BL400


EK867


ON11384


Article 3: (Request 1)

> AV102 GL3694 (agnescsf@asiaonline.net) said:


>


> AV1 同AV112 有何問題??





兩部車都係炒車頭.





AV112好似唔係太嚴重, 而AV1就係炒完之後冇o左車頭個經典


VOLVO斜條LOGO水牌的.


Article 3: (Request 2)

城巴202果架係響1996年11月6日早上十時,因為行錯路行左去


深圳一條未開既路,架車撞到條電纜而被削頂,導致一導遊死


亡,幾名乘客受傷。





另外仲有九巴N174同G183,都係車頭嚴重損毀。


N174果架係響1995年12月某日空車由佐敦去上水,當架車駛至


獅子山隧道果陣,車頭突然帽煙著火,後來雖然被救熄,不過


車頭嚴重損毀,事後卻擺左響上水廠都一段日子。





仲有S3N245亦係車尾著火


響九四年某日,架S3N245(73X)載住乘客,沿城門隧道去荃灣


駛至管道中間,車尾突然著火,印象中好似有乘客受傷。





其他就有


815(118),S3M2??(86C),AL27,AL118,S3BL364---著火





AL42(74X),AD126(259D),3AV142(74X),G224(73),


G427(73A),AD2(276P)----撞車





G305(69M),G217(70)---翻側





Tony(S3M61)


祥華巴士路線專輯


Article 3: (Request 3)

> Lance (neoplan7@netvigator.com) said:


>


> 當年九記: N174 (70), 獅隧內燒通頂 (見到的話,勿上車...)





燒通頂後已無機會上車.





GZ5818


Article 3: (Request 4)

> Raymond (a1212122@netvigator.com) said:


> 城巴: 870(118)翻車


還有當年XF46(85)翻車


Article 3: (Request 5)

仲有得坐咩~~~~


Article 3: (Request 6)

> EK2409 (yconline@ctimail.com) said:


> VA63(A20)割頂





VA60 炒車


DL13 炒車, 對頭九巴司機死


DA63 翻車


MB32 1982年 中環失控撞死人





LV21 翻車,不過十月係小西灣......


Article 3: (Request 7)

> TomChen (tomchen@hknet.com) said:


>


> DS1呢,撞死阿伯





97年6月12號晚o係小西灣總站嘛, 不過o個個阿婆o黎o架.


Article 4:

Re: What would you suggest?


Cityflyer A23 (cpitech@netvigator.com) from olkc2065.netvigator.com at Mon Dec 7 12:14, 1998 said:


> Citybus 291 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) said:


> With regard to 100/911R/M1 Wong's wish to have a route from Tsim Sha Tsui to Hang Hau or Sai Kung, I have a new route of Citybus 291B, but has 2 options:


>


> Citybus 291B (AEL Kowloon - Metro City)


> Option 1:


> AEL - TST - Jordan - Mong Kok - Prince Edward - Kai Tak - Diamond Hill - Choi Hung - Tseng Lan Shue - HKUST - Hang Hau - Metro City


>


> This suggestion makes there is a direct trip from HKUST to Mong Kok, but does not via To Kwa Wan.


>


> Option 2:


> AEL - TST - Chatham Road - To Kwa Wan - Kai Tak - Choi Hung - Tseng Lan Shue - HKUST - Hang Hau - Metro City


>


> However, both may not have enough passengers.


>


> Please tell me which is better and if there is any other suggestions.


>


> Citybus 291


Why there are not enough passengers???? I prefer Option 1, but


I would also take 291B (Option 2) from TST to To Kwa Wan &


back.


Please use 2700-27.. .





Today I saw 2218 on Tsind Ma bridge, but without license plate.


It was heading to KLN.


Article 4: (Request 1)

But I think not many people would take such a long bus route to Hang Hau. They would take MTR to Choi Hung & then 291A (Tsz Wan Shan - Metro City, by NWFB).


And most people would take the route at overnight because there are many people living in Junk Bay go out to Mong Kok, but KMB 9x series have to go via TST, To Kwa Wan, Kwun Tong, Po Lam Road, making the trip at least 1.5 hours long.





Even so, I would try it.





Citybus 291


Article 5:

Re: My weird bus dream


Cityflyer A23 (cpitech@netvigator.com) from olkc2065.netvigator.com at Mon Dec 7 12:04, 1998 said:


> Citybus 291 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) said:


> Last night I had a weird bus dream.


>


> (1) Citybus 5A is cancelled & Citybus 1 is lengthened to Kennedy Town, because of ability of setting up bi-directional fare due to new electronic fare collection system. It goes via Johnston Road in both directions to compete with the trams & to avoid traffic congetsion of Hennseey Road.


>


> (2) NWFB demands TD to cut KMB 91M to it because Citybus 291, cut from KMB 91, becomes very successful after Citybus operation, due to cheap sectional fare.


>


> (3) The service of KMB becomes very bad, worse than CMB just before Sep 1998. KMB not only overcharges people, but also set up gambilng table in buses, and show pornogrpahic films, like those 16 seat buses in Guanzhou before 1992. The TD then take over KMB for 6 months, and open all KMB routes for tender by 3 companies.


> Citybus, NWFB & HK Pubilc Bus, by Koon Chung & Dai Cheong Hong, got the franchise.


> Volvo then expand its Xian factory because of large bus buying demand from HK, and the new factory has capacity of 10000 buses per year.


> Then there are competition everywhere, making HK bus service the best in Asia!


>


> Citybus 291





The service of KMB not becomes bad, but it is bad. So I hope in


the near future, that 291,291M,208,205,207,217,241,245,208A....


will become true. That these routes are profitable if you use


mini-Tridents or single deck MAN I have no doubt. Nowadays most


of the passengers take green minibusses.


CTB & NWFB should get the routes.





It is not we want competetition in KLN & NT, but many HK residents


see the improvements on HK island, why not in KLN & NT?


Ducks belong to the museums, but not on the roads in 1999!!!!


Article 5: (Request 1)

I totally agree with you. This is a very undoubted fact!


I know 291, 291M, 205 7 207 come from KMB 91, 91M, 5C & 7B respectively, but how about 217, 241, 245, 208A, and if there is any route changes?


This is true because they are of low floor, hence atracting the old to take them. The operational cost is lowered with full AC service because of absence of gas guzzling hotdogs with high maintainence cost.


Many people in Ho Man Tin, To Kwa Wan, Junk Bay demanded such changes as there is not any AC service in Ho man Tin within 5 years if there is not any competition (the extreme case is AC service would only be introduced in 2047, when HK is not a SAR but becomes a city of PRC!)


There is not many AC service in Junk Bay, and 690 is the worst case, with a lot of hotdogs running on it, forcing passengers to inhale exhausts in tunnel for a long time.


Yes! That's why the Atlanteans are not on regular service since 24 Mar 1998, and NWFB is planning to get rid of all hotdogs by Sep 2000 (but it is quite likely for us to have full coldhorse NWFB service in Christmas 1999! Yeah!)





Citybus 291


Article 6:

Re: 城巴機場服務真係好好!


299 Vigor (wkli98@netvigator.com) from eng-ser3.erg.cuhk.edu.hk at Mon Dec 7 02:08, 1998 said:


> Jess (c5013830@hkbu.edu.hk) said:


> 城巴咁竟有無TRAIN過D行A線車的司機和機場服務中心的職員?


>


> 話說今日送婆婆機, 要入新機場. 因為姨母唔想咁早起身, 所以分開去.


> 當佢在佐敦上A22時, 佢唔清楚收費, 問司機, 司機說成人39, 小童19.5.


> 我姨母不太清楚便照入如儀, 到在車上有乘客說只是33元, 便知被搵笨.


>


> 到了機場, 當去完麥當勞食野後, 去問機場裡面的Counter,


> 那幾位職員竟無一肯定到價錢, 兩個話39, 一個話37, 一個話33, 一個話30.


> 去查資料才知那個詢問處只有由機場開出的路線資料, 而沒有開往


> 機場的路線資料. 最後佢叫我去鄰近電話打28730818去問, 會有人答


> 我喎(乜近來城巴熱線連星期日都有人答?) 再問佢如果有收錯費情形


> , 應該點問佢拿回, 她就話呢方面唔方便答.


>


> 到出去總站問D司機, 答案如下:14元/18元/33元/39元


>


> 真懷疑佢地有無被知會過D車的收費??????


>


> Jess


>


> ps: 剩係記得幾點上車可唔可以投訴及追到差額:共21元(兩大三細)





The fare is correct wor.


A21: $33, A22: $39.


But it is worng of CTBus staff not to provide info promptly, being unhelpful,


and giving unacceptable answers.


Article 6: (Request 1)

城巴既A線司機, 我可以講大部份都唔係路, 奇差!


在機場總站未開車看見有遊客招手, 竟然扮唔知慢慢著安全衣帶,


跟著開車走, 我馬上走去站長室投訴, 但答覆真係不知所謂,


城巴機場線冇得救


Article 6: (Request 2)

Counter 冇電話咩? 人地商場仔O既位都有一個電話啦,


佢叫得人打去, 不如先叫佢地自己先打去, 睇下問唔問到嘛.


咁行的答案, 香港成日賣O既優質服務真係俾城記一朝摧毀囉.


(唔記得點用官腔講添 :P)


可唔可以又用番28730818呢? 又或者打去電台.... :)





cky


Article 6: (Request 3)

Will overseas visitors come back if they realised they have been ripped-off (搵笨)?





Jess 兄, you can even take the complain to Tourist Association and Consumer Council.





Sunba


Article 6: (Request 4)

就憑你所得的資料投訴吧.


Article 6: (Request 5)

幾個月前我父母同我爺爺搭城巴118,我爸爸番黎話比我知:


去時上架城巴118,爺爺用張長者八達通,拍機後個司機話唔


得,要入$4.7,之後入左咪算數,然後到火車站Check張八達通,


最下一行打:當日日期 城巴 4.7


唉......


好想106,118有自軌金躉既Raymond


記低架車既編號都得


Article 6: (Request 6)

呢o的係商業秘密咩?點解會「唔方便答」?唔識答至少都應該叫


人打上公司問呀,都好不負責任喎......





(如果係外國o的遊客知佢o的司機誤導佢入多o左錢,而o的職員竟


然俾個咁o既答案的話,旅遊協會真係響外國賣多多廣告都無用。)


Article 7:

Re: 有無睇亞視?


AD4541 (LEEOO@IBM.NET) from pc092.ctn.com.hk at Sun Dec 6 20:36, 1998 said:


> EK2409 (yconline@ctimail.com) said:


> 頭先亞視o岩o岩講完九巴o既報站系統,


> 唔知大家有無睇呢?


有呀!!還有電子道路收費0


記唔記得九巴報站系統個NO.


每週金句:【中巴好,中巴D司機更好,中巴D舊車更好】


GUY


Article 7: (Request 1)

> 豐巴 (simong@netvigator.com) said:


>


> 今晚11:15三色台[財經透視]都好似有講巴士


> o的野.





係講捷聯幫木瓜裝嵌自行設計o既車身, 打開由外國設計車身o既壟斷云云....





其實據Mike Davis o既中巴書所講, 中巴o係好多年以前已經採用一款


叫''黃周''o既港產車身.








Mike NG(CMB-LF126)


Article 7: (Request 2)

> 而九巴都有一種叫 KMB Body 的架。





呵呵,KMB body 既數量分分鐘仲多過捷聯啦


好似 L 又有 N1 - N4 啦 仲有 D





人地用 KMB body 時城巴都唔知響邊 ..... :P





--





罷回無聊文章, 回復昔日安寧, 全賴大家支持


Article 8:

Re: 怎樣取得”今日九巴”一書


Jess (c5013830@hkbu.edu.hk) from 203.80.108.52 at Sun Dec 6 19:08, 1998 said:


> Dick (dvchan@netvigator.com) said:


> 怎樣得到這刊物呢?


贈閱版:


入巴士迷世界/九巴之友


全部版:


入九巴做/問九巴職員取/問區議員搵.


Jess


Article 8: (Request 1)

另贈閱版會寄去各團體、機構,例如:中、小學、各大專院校


的圖書館、社區中而閱覽室、甚至連部份私人屋苑的住客會所


也可能有。


或者可以問相熟的九巴車長取,甚至我見過有位82X的師傅翻


看一兩頁(本書好新,封面平直過我件恤衫)便丟在站頭的垃


圾箱!


Article 8: (Request 2)

1)搵相熟車長幫手


2)寫信去九巴公關部(但只會得到贈閱版,非員工版)


Article 8: (Request 3)

參加巴士迷世界囉!





EK2409


Article 9:

Re: 見到城記眼火爆!(From ATR1)


前中巴8號線太守VA51 (parnell@cyberec.com) from ip-230-183.cyberec.com at Mon Dec 7 01:13, 1998 said:


> Tony(S3M61) (op615221@netvigator.com) said:


> 以下一段文字係摘自「三叉戟‧ATR1」:


>


> 「昨天我同VA51坐城記入赤柱,首先係260,部1317唔知乜事,


> 每次用<30 km/h過彎,部車就BB聲咁嚮,車門又壞,城記搞乜


> o架?


>


> 接著,坐部6X(214)出金鐘,214個鐘成日被人站站按,司機就媽


> 粗口。最眼火爆就係我當時己經病到七彩,想訓想訓咁,我就扶


> 住支扶底部,果個司機就對住我罵:「唔好按鐘呀!你條xx!」


> 嘩!扶住扶手有罪o架?好地地罵我?有冇搞錯!?!?我由上


> 車到落車都未按過鐘呀!唔信問下VA51丫!簡直眼火爆!


>


> 非必要的話,我絕不會再坐城巴入赤柱!


>


> 咳咳~


>


> 病到七彩的


> 三叉戟‧ATR1


> ATR1~~HJ2127


> S3N121~~~DP5782」





點只呀~個司機仲扮識英文答遊客添!





遊客A : 'How much should I pay?'


司機 : '8 dollars and 40 cents'


遊客B : 'Is this bus via WanChai?'


司機 : '?'


遊客B : 'I am asking u if this bus via WanChai?'(講得好慢,好大聲,


連我都聽得一清二楚)


司機 : 'What?'(排緊隊上車果D乘客開始注意對話)


遊客B : 'You xxxx(粗口)!'(跟住就上了上層)


司機 : '(一大堆粗口)講又講唔x清楚!仲發咩x野脾氣呀!'





唉......唔識咪算囉,你叫乘客應付咪得囉!又或者一句'I don't know'都


得啦.城記的人都慣架啦!








嘩嘩,嘩~~~~仲有8日咋~


前中巴8號線太守VA51


Article 9: (Request 1)

This is very difficult as all routes going from Central & Aberdeen are operated by Citybus.


What would you choose from below?





A. Central - Stanley


(1) Citybus 6 series


(2) NWFB 18 to North Point - NWFB 63/65





B. Aberdeen - Stanley


(1) Citybus 73


(2) NWFB 38/42 to North Point - NWFB 63/65





The answers are obvious, (1). But a classmate in Form 5, Leung Wai Hung, loves CMB & hates Citybus, so he selects (2) as the way of travel, even this takes much longer time.





Citybus 291


Article 9: (Request 2)

回想以前6系轉O左做城記時, 放學搭親車都有人企向上層, 而咁O岩


上層樓梯口位隔離條柱係有個鐘掣. O的人一 'AI' 親就會整著個


落車燈, 個冇耐司機就會開O左車內的咪話:


'唔該上面O既人唔好 'AI' 住條柱呀!' 但係O的語氣都唔會咁差喎.


可能做耐O左, 見差唔多成了獨市, 咪可以不用再理一些基本對乘客


的禮貌吧!


改搭14/63/65 吹生風妳過焗熱氣, 點都舒服的 :)





今日都係病病地, 結果出街全搭非空調車的


cky


Article 9: (Request 3)

> Sunba (akyl@rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au) said:


>


>


> 都幾難.....





小弟入赤柱都唔搭城記架喎,搭14號嗎


Article 10:

Re: 神奇的Trident


Hanvas 漢 華 (hanvas@netvigator.com) from hhtam035139.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 22:11, 1998 said:


> Lance (neoplan7@netvigator.com) said:


> 小弟昨日搭278X, 於荃灣見到一黃色的Trident, 再細心睇:


> 有個九記Logo在車旁(司機位後), 而正在行E31...


> 請問這是ATR?? (ALX500 Body)


> 謝謝!





係 龍 運 Trident ( HT7204 ).


上 左 個 海 鮮 酒 家 廣 告 , 全 車 黃 色 加 條 Banner.


或 者 因 為 係 九 巴 負 責 上 廣 告 , 所 以 有 九 巴 Logo 在 旁 .


Article 10: (Request 1)

> S3BL400 (tangeric@netvigator.com) said:


>


> 該車係龍運D車呢o架,己經上o左x彩海鮮酒家廣告成個月啦!


> 該車係唯一一架上o左全車身廣告o既Trident.





仲 有 一 部 : 東 涌 富 東 廣 場 靚 靚 廣 告 (HT7507)


http://home.netvigator.com/~hanvas/hkvne/weekly27.html


Article 10: (Request 2)

上o左全車身廣告o既Trident重有國泰&機場購物中心.


Article 11:

Re: 問 : 邊條線收費最講 '信' 字 ?


DC10 (s986380@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk) from uranus.csc.cuhk.edu.hk at Mon Dec 7 02:10, 1998 said:


> Vin - S3BL195 (chiangwk@netvigator.com) said:


> 我認為九記53就最講'信'字啦, 舉佢o既收費為例:


>


> 荃灣碼頭--元朗(東): $6.70


> 荃灣碼頭--虎地: $5.30


> 荃灣碼頭--青龍頭: $3.50


>


> 因為多數司機都唔會記得邊個客埋入o左幾多錢同埋係邊度落.


> 咁即係話入$3.50就隨時可以坐到元朗.


> 真係九記同乘客講個'信'字?


>


> 大家點睇呢?


>


> 第一次post文 + 慘被掉走的


> S3BL195 --- Vin





I think that is the CMB(NWFB) route 15.


There is a bidirectional sectional fare from Central to Wan Chai Gap (Police Museum).


The driver would not inform you when you reach that


and you could take to the Peak!


Article 11: (Request 1)

The the problem of unhonest passengers evading the fare can be easily avoided by using the new electronic fare collection system which uses electronic tickets to prevent people from taking long trips with fare lower than specified.





Citybus 291


Article 12:

奇怪的交換車


藍田人 (94903735@alumni.cityu.edu.hk) from proxy1.cityu.edu.hk at Mon Dec 7 02:47, 1998 said:


215X前排用4架(3+2)AD同千里迢迢的52M交換了4架(2+2)AD,結果


唔夠1個月就即刻用番4架分別係FC,FD,FD同FH牌的正(3+2)AD o黎


行,你話係咪無聊同多此一舉o丫,究竟係有特別原因定係無考慮清楚


就交換車呢?


Article 12: (Request 1)

> WingKit (tslmis@hkstar.com) said:


>


> 話時話, 215X批GJ牌AD都好'Lup'好冇力, 在德田街滿載上斜起步都


> 頗吃力, 用番D 195kw 既AD絕對係好事.


>


> 也是藍田人


> WingKit





點都好過批廢AV啦...





都係藍田人,現在o係公司o既藍田站長(前GB2444,FX8032)


Article 13:

Re: [尋車]--ML


LF291 (wang5@hknet.com) from 202.67.235.94 at Sun Dec 6 23:43, 1998 said:


> AV102 GL3694 (agnescsf@asiaonline.net) said:


> 有冇人知道 ML9,16,29,60, VA45 現在行什麼線?





四部 ML 應該全屬堅廠線, 例如 101, 104, 113 (唔肯定)





至於 VA45 就是 302 二車字軌, 行完攝 691 三轉,


想知大約開出時間就電郵問我.


Article 13: (Request 1)

> PTC (bc_cly@stu.ust.hk) said:


> 咁可唔可以幫我搵o下ML15宜家o係邊樹呢?





呢排就唔知, 早排經常見到行 113


Article 14:

Re: What is AP1?


Pirro Cheung (y931204@netvigator.com) from imsp038.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 19:02, 1998 said:


> Bean Lee (cityman@netteens.net) said:


> As the title.


Air-conditioned NeoPlan Centroliner





Pirro Cheung


574---HD9422


Article 14: (Request 1)

AP1當然不是Neoplan Centroliner,


而是當年KMB 三菱 MP618N 樣版車,


現己被買,變成校巴......


Lance


Article 14: (Request 2)

AP1當然是Neoplan Centroliner, 請睇呢度


Article 15:

Re: (問野)唔該話比我知啦!


中秀的天空 (ssk82299@netvigator.com) from hhttnt02016.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 22:25, 1998 said:


> Dick (dvchan@netvigator.com) said:


> 唔該可唔可以話比我知3:00pm-6:00pm


> (其它時間都殺)ATR1既開出時間呀!我想


> 要D準確D既資料,我唔想再捉蟲啦!希望大家可以


> 助我呢個禮拜影到ATR1啦,唔該!


>


> 唔想再為左影ATR1


> 而企係中秀總站既


> 啊Dick


>中秀的天空(ssk82299@netvigator,com)said


>ATR1壞了,和時間改了,現在的字軌大約早10至15分鐘


Article 15: (Request 1)

> Dick (dvchan@netvigator.com) said:


> 壞左!Oh!整反好未呢?


> 請問ATR1 12:00pm-6:00pm既


> 字軌時間係冇呢?唔該解答!


>


> 啊Dick


中秀的天空(ssk82299@netvigator.com) said:


如果部車出來行,我通知你呀字軌時間不是冇,而是你看到其他金替


代了ATR1行駛該字軌,希望可以幫助到你喇,


希望你下次可以影到


Article 16:

Re: 點解個個買巴士都要去80N?


tom tom bus (thomascheng@ctimail.com) from 203.80.106.202 at Sun Dec 6 23:22, 1998 said:


> Jacky,AL65 (williamc@tsl.net.hk) said:


>


> 首先,我講明這篇文章絕無想製造戰.


> 當我得知80N會在屯門開分店後很[慶]


> 因為我一直講過我最[憎]姓郭的老細.


> 他買的車又貴經常帶動炒風,成日加價.


> 可能你會話他有9折,別的鋪頭無.而且


> 他賣的貨品種類比別的多.無錯,正是


> 因咁讓他有獨家壟斷的機會.賣貴一


> 貴你都要買.點解明知搶錢都幫襯.


> 其實買車大可以去[巴士X界],[三X],[金X]或[鴻X]


> [90N]......有時買得重平過佢.


> 好似我買新巴TRIDENT(初出時)在金X用$300就買到


> 就算而家買城巴CITYFLYER無字版都是$160.


> 所以各位買車或書不如試去第二間買


> 唔一定係死80N!(當然屯門,元朗的最近係80N新店


> 我無得好講.)


>


> 並非賣廣告,並非針對,並不想挑戰!


> Jacky,AL65


> MSD82





I strongly agree with your statement !


I extremely hate impolite 80N, especially the wear glasses female shop assistant !


I also recommend everybody to go other shops.


Article 16: (Request 1)

> 88K (b9505044@ln.edu.hk) said:


>


>


> 我同意你的觀點,因其他巴士舖一定平D(非會員也一樣)。


> 如'日'利。每款都比80N平超過$20-30。並且任意選車,有


> 一次我就選過七部,老闆也叫繼續,態度也十分有禮。


> 因此,我一次也沒有惠顧過 80N,各板友請在 80N睇就好。





唔該我想要以上店舖的地址?


Article 17:

Re: Volvo邊到做0架?香港?


GF1912 (yanho@netvigator.com) from hhtck001095.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 23:54, 1998 said:


> 1010,1357 (schneide@netvigator.com) said:


> 誤導!!


> 頭先睇完無記,講到城巴/捷記自己做巴士,


> 講到好似全車都係香港做!!


> Volvo邊到做0架?香港?


> 唉...又唔睇下己的質素差成點,淨係識講到達世界水準...





話薯話, 佢地真係冇提過'車身'兩隻字喎,


講到成部巴士都係香港造咁, 係就犀利咯......


Article 17: (Request 1)

But I think Jit Luen body is the best body used on Volvo B6. It has most effecient space usage, with 4 seats over each front wheel & no useless space left, most comfortable seats, especially that of tipping seat (the tipping seat is the only one with high back, others are low back), and best sound insulation.





Citybus 291


Article 18:

Re: 九記都普躉手工好差


輝仔 (c5124176@comp.polyu.edu.hk) from ip58_120.asiaonline.net at Sun Dec 6 23:13, 1998 said:


> DM12(ER7054) (clement@netteens.net) said:


> 今日去旺角買Notebook,買完返屋企坐112


> 等0左一陣就有架都普躉,


> 我上0左上層,樓底好低,個頭可以頂天花,





架車已經係低地台, 又唔見得部車比其他巴士矮, 上層樓底咁矮, D高度去哂邊?


唔通下層係為外國人而設? :p





> 跟住坐車頭,黑色的前幅同白色的旁板的接口接得好差


> d膠成條蛇咁彎彎曲曲,好核突~


>


> DM12(ER7054)


Article 18: (Request 1)

咁講真, 上層要咁高做乜?(莫非上層有企位咩) 下層高咪仲好.


我前幾日先係架雞下層比頭頂條扶手撞親......





P.S. 我高178cm


Article 19:

大 相 廣 告 ● 新 巴 #1091


Hanvas 漢 華 (hanvas@netvigator.com) from hhtam035139.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 21:52, 1998 said:


大 相 廣 告 ● 新 巴 #1091


  網 頁     : 香 港 汽 車 網 絡 快 線


  更 新 項 目 : 每 週 大 相


            新 巴 #1091


  更 新 日 期 : 98/12/06


  網 址    : http://home.netvigator.com/~hanvas/hkvne/weekly33.html


Article 19: (Request 1)

> T.P.T. (dckk@netteens.net) said:


>


> 嘩~~ 嚇死.. 仲以為10號添.. 個1字無o左一棟都有既? ^o^





轉 緊 彎 嘛 ! 嚮 正 面 睇 係 可 以 睇 晒 架 !


原 來 嚮 側 面 睇 係 睇 唔 晒 個 電 子 牌 架 !


Article 20:

Re: 今日有牛過海


華人 (ypy@hk.super.net) from max8-7.hk.super.net at Sun Dec 6 21:21, 1998 said:


> AD4541 (LEEOO@IBM.NET) said:


> 今日有一部卡通牛過海,唔知大家有冇看到0








我見到.佢o向維園出席活動.








p.s.我o向維園見到肥paul.好彩我即時扮唔係巴士迷.





華人


Article 20: (Request 1)

同場更有九巴和新巴的Trident各一部,城巴單層MAN一部,大自然巴士一部,以及一


些其他類別的特別車輛。


你又見到﹖我都有呀﹗幸好我的反應跟你一樣。


Article 21:

Re: [討論]點解仲不能用8仔


EK2409 (yconline@ctimail.com) from 203.80.97.221 at Sun Dec 6 20:49, 1998 said:


> chung (chengtt@ctimail.com) said:


>點解仲不能用?





聽116o的司機講,


俊聯好似話唔夠8仔機呀!





EK2409


Article 22:

Re: 怎樣申請成為Corgi/EFE會員?


9807 (newflyer@sympatico.ca) from d80-hn101h1-htmn-pdi.attcanada.net at Sun Dec 6 20:51, 1998 said:


> 董特首 (cityman@netteens.net) said:


> As the title.





寄信去英國申請囉。


地址可去


http://www.corgi.co.uk


但EFE的話,可以電郵去leeoo@ibm.net的那位板友蟄問問





小弟係Corgi Club加國會員,收同樣料,但比一半會費。


Article 22: (Request 1)

我個地住改左:LEEOOTSSE@CTIMAIL.COM


Article 23:

今朝彩虹所見


PTC (bc_cly@stu.ust.hk) from ustsu54-nc2.ust.hk at Mon Dec 7 09:46, 1998 said:


今朝8:30 o係彩虹木等車,等極都唔見有車。 o黎o左架凍91,


梗係唔上啦(咁貴)。 後面跟住一架沙仔91M, 我見到由91M隊轉搭91


o的人竟然o係馬路走番入o黎! :P





上o左車唔夠50米,見到對面線停o左架食鬼194, 舋得少少奇怪:因為


早上上班時間628 o係小巴泊位落完客就會立即飛過坪石後面上客,


好少仲留o係清水灣道. 望真o的, 咦! 點解車頭有塊地點牌o既?


o采! 乜原來係606 o黎o架! 仲要係死車添! 你話係咪好諷刺!


其實我一直都覺得o係彩虹木o的客好容易攪錯呢兩條完全冇啦lung


o既6字頭路線,不過一條用Leyland 11m, VOLVO 12m,一條用VOLVO 11m


形狀差咁遠就算啦。依家竟然連606都玩D咁o野,實在有點兒那個。





架車上到井欄樹之後又係同我上次搭o既情況一樣: 俾92過頭唔在講,


最弊係俾後面兩架91M過o左!俾一架藍色玻璃o既29M沙仔同91M ADS過哂頭!


你話排隊排咁前做乜! 入到科大個彎位仲要等前面o個兩架車落哂客先至


落得車! 下次見到91M沙仔都要諗過至上車。





好唔忿氣o既PTC


Article 23: (Request 1)

That's why KMB 91 is losing heavily due to lack of HKUST passengers. So it is a good decision to cut KMB 91 to Citybus 291, with a lot of cheap sectional fare, so most HKUST students would take Citybus 291.


The 2 axle hotdogs are very slow. I took a trip of 91M on a BL & recorded the lowest speed of 2km/h between HKUST & Pik Uk!! This can be solved immediately by using only 11m buses on 91M, bus KMB refuses to do so just because of lack of competition, like that of no full AC service on 690. So it is necessary to cut KMB 91 to Citybus 291 to force KMB to improve.


In fact KMB must use only 11m buses on 91M, but it refuses to do so. This shows the corruptness of KMB, so it is again necessary to cut KMB 91 to Citybus 291.


Citybus 291, who is totally dissatisfied with KMB disgusting service in HKUST & forced to take slow, shoddy KMB hotdogs to HKUST, and demands the TD to cut KMB 91 to Citybus 291.


Article 24:

Re: 昨日70 號遊河及所見


Tony(S3M61) (op615221@netvigator.com) from hhtam005092.netvigator.com at Mon Dec 7 08:17, 1998 said:


> AV102 GL3694 (agnescsf@asiaonline.net) said:


> 昨日(5/12) 我同兩個巴士迷坐61X(ME9) 往屯門,


> 之後坐68A(S3BL) 往元朗, 再轉77K(M) 去上水.


> 去到上水,有人建議坐70, 點知剛有部70 既BL59 開出,


> 於是我們便由上水廣場跑去馬會道搭, 好在趕倒.


查實如果由上水廣場可以唔駛跑去馬會道咁辛苦,可以直接


去上水火車站(響隔離)搭火車去粉嶺火車站,跟住過粉嶺名


都,落天橋後有一巴士站就可以搭70喇。而架70號正常既話


由上水往呢個分站一般要二十分鐘,至於坐火車去粉嶺再到


該分站大既十分鐘就可以喇。





> 去到大埔,竟然有部M 仔爬我0地頭. 另外在大埔,


> 又見到有3 部ME 差不多迫住行往上水, 還見有一部S3N.


>


> 去到大埔公路,又見到兩部70(ME), 還有兩部74A,


> 72,72A,,73A 各一部. 用了(1小時45分鐘)坐完70號.


>


> 70 號好似係加密了班次, 但又可能係塞車所致.


> 如果係加密就好啦!!


70號平日班次15-22分鐘,假日則需14-25分鐘,所以班


次都無加密。


正常而言如果70號由佐敦去沙田行車時間為30分鐘(如果


窩打老道塞車則需時間會長好多),沙田去粉嶺要50分鐘


(如果ADS更加快,試過35分鐘),粉嶺去上水則需20分鐘,


一共100分鐘,行車時間都差唔多喇。


Article 25:

Re: 舊中巴站反新


TL (awongtl@ihug.co.nz) from imsp037.netvigator.com at Mon Dec 7 01:36, 1998 said:


> AD4541 (LEEOO@IBM.NET) said:


> 唔知有冇人看到北碼(舊中巴站長室)塗上新巴色,大家有何感想???





你係唔係講翻新油呀?仲以為你話有中記人反新巴添, 油上新巴色宦係遲


早既事, 我己經睇慣左.


Article 26:

I saw 4961 today


VA48 (mirage13@netvigator.com) from olkc5101.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 22:30, 1998 said:


When I take AV77#671 today afternoon.


When th e bus arrive Choi Hong I saw


4961 in front of me the bus was on tow


by a Scania truck.





Wah today I take a 99 bus(456)


The driver is so wolf.Used only45 mins


from Shaukiwan to South Horrizons





cool!!!!





2102,VA48


Article 26: (Request 1)

部 車 係 咪 嚮 大 老 山 隧 道 跪 左 呀 ?


Article 27:

Re: Neoplan Centroliner 一問??


Pirro Cheung (y931204@netvigator.com) from imsp038.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 23:45, 1998 said:


> Lance (neoplan7@netvigator.com) said:


> 小弟想問:


> Centroliner 是否已出牌?


是,車牌是HY1677


> Fleet No ?


AP1


> 謝謝指教!!


You are Welcome


> Lance


Pirro Cheung


574---HD9422


Article 28:

Re: 有無板友知道...


Pirro Cheung (y931204@netvigator.com) from imsp038.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 23:54, 1998 said:


> EK2409 (yconline@ctimail.com) said:


> 請問有無板友知道邊過網頁有得玩龍運攪牌器?


http://susis.ust.hk/~bus/lw/HN.htm


Article 29:

有o家新巴色的VA上了Banner!


Route 99 (ayeung@vol.net) from 202.88.2.241 at Sun Dec 6 17:42, 1998 said:


剛剛見有o家新巴色的VA 行 110 上了Philips banner 廣告呀!


Article 30:

狗籠公司的職員對話


大腦電波 (leungtam@hknet.com) from 202.67.236.204 at Mon Dec 7 02:11, 1998 said:


我頭先坐N260由美孚前往屯門,聽到幾個car佬同一個著深藍色制服


的狗籠職員(可能係站長級,有錯請指正),話今年狗籠請左19個助理站


長,到現在有5個已經辭職,其中一個係由銀行裁出來的.o個班人話站


長邊適合高學歷的人擔任,car佬粗口難舌,佢唔適應此等工作,所以


咪辭工.佢地仲話助理站長只是替更,邊個站的站長不在就由助理站長


頂替,絕對唔係助理站長去協助站長的工作.o個個由銀行裁出來的前


助理站長就做左三日就辭工了.





本人有以下問題想問?


1. 助理站長,站長的入職要求如何?


2. 助理站長,站長的職責有何分別?聽car佬講係一樣,係唔係真的?





現在香港失業率高企,人人都想保住飯碗,但竟然有職位的辭工率係咁


商(5/19).如果狗籠公司再係咁樣,我相信一些高質素的運輸人材亦唔


會去狗籠公司工作,唉......





(唔好引起罵戰,多謝大家合作)


Article 30: (Request 1)

This is clearly because KMB is an extremely corrupt company, worse than CMB. This corruptness is seen from its bus allocation, like Ducks on 680, 11m buses on 12 & 87 with very few passengers, many tall HKUST students packed in Ducks with low headroom on 91M, lack of sectional fare of 91, thus repelling HKUST students & makes it losing heavliy, etc.





So KMB franchise should be ended and let 3 bus companies to operate these routes, so to improve the bus service.





Citybus 291, who demands the cutting of 91 to Citybus 291 and 91M to NWFB 291A to save HKUST students from KMB poorest service.


Article 31:

(Ad) Citybus 291 Buses Discussion Board


Citybus 291 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) from ustsu18-nc2.ust.hk at Mon Dec 7 10:55, 1998 said:


Citybus 291 Buses Discussion Board now adds a hot passage 'KMB Countless Sins' which features the evil side & the bad practice of KMB. A very special gift for somebody is also posted!





Citybus 291


Article 32:

咦﹖新巴1082......


Dennis Law (ctb2500@upnaway.com) from 202.82.240.137 at Mon Dec 7 00:46, 1998 said:


......何解會有波浪紋的呢﹖不是曾經有人話過新巴只有頭80部10xx系列的Trident會


上這種色的嗎﹖





(註﹕此車今日行8P)


Article 33:

【廣告/更新又來了!】–你唔睇,就蝕底。


新巴冷鷹五四之頁DA54 (da54@netteens.net) from 202.67.219.53 at Sun Dec 6 23:12, 1998 said:


新巴冷鷹五四之頁







新巴冷鷹五四之頁 再度例行更新了!





今次 update 當然少不了精采的雙週相片精選.


超級精選內容有:





  • 嶼巴雞!


  • VA54!


  • 銀豪最後一刻!


  • ML3最新廣告!


  • 新巴訓練車T102及T103/4!


  • 新巴翻油三菱工程車!


  • 以及...... 新巴色 DM.... 個車尾!








另外,十二月競猜遊戲已經推出,今次易到飛起,快來參加吧!








記住這個易記網址:


http://w3.to/da54








多謝!


Article 34:

[廣告]: 利樂街巴士總站更新


羊羊, 671 (yeung671@ctimail.com) from 205.252.137.147 at Sun Dec 6 20:31, 1998 said:


利樂街巴士總站 為配合聖誕節來臨, 主頁已特別更換了全新版面,


增添聖誕氣氛.





[ 巴士相片廊 ( 完全版 ) ] 亦已更新, 今期每週一相為九巴 3AV


( 車牌號碼 GC 1659 ) 行 107 號線 ( 攝於華貴 ) ; 而啟德機場


紀念專輯亦加入中巴 VA63 行 A20 的情景.





每週一相下期預告 : 中巴 VA49 與 VA55 合照, 兩車皆行走 111 號


線 ( 攝於港澳碼頭 ).





羊羊, 671


Article 35:

最多走短程車路線 - 104


N340/CT5138 (gw7112li@netvigator.com) from hhtam021107.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 19:45, 1998 said:


小弟估計 104 是新九城眾多路線中, 最多機會出現短程車的一條!





基本上, 平日上午九時到晚上七八時, 大部份104都是攪中環街市,


旺角短程! 某次見到連續幾班104由南昌街出大埔道落聯合廣場攪


中環牌起載, 極少104走足全程去堅城或白田!





幸好104極少有巴士迷心水車, 否則在總站捕車隨時白等!





小弟記得大約十年前, 在皇后像廣場外等104去白田, 遇上中巴時間,


由十點半等到十一點半, 全部104都只去旺角! 結果被迫搭地鐵...


這個情況由來已久, 看來是行車時間非常不夠.





還有沒有別的路線有更多短程車?





大約下午六時, 104在加士居道女拔萃對面擺的吉車陣, 本來都只是


兩三輛, 早兩晚竟然暴增至五輛, 龍尾接近裁判署小路口!





70都普鴨


Article 36:

1010,1357


想問問 (schneide@netvigator.com) from hhtun029199.netvigator.com at Sun Dec 6 19:32, 1998 said:


想問問


1.城巴2500的載客量.


2.將來新雙層MAN是什麼車身?


3.你0地話買捷達模型好定訂KCR Olympian好?





Thanks.


今日拆資$300買了部NWFB 1001 model的


1010,1357


Article 37:

Re: 新巴本星期五特別服務


John--2100 (jmtng@hknet.com) from hkusud.hku.hk at Mon Dec 7 13:11, 1998 said:


> 968 wfner (jevonwu@netvigator.com) said:


> 今個星期五是東華三院聯校運動會的大日子,


> 新巴將於該日下午三時半左右提供免費巴士服務


> 由小西灣運動場往杏花村地鐵站。


> 大家估下會派甚麼車呢?


> 我估甚麼動物車,熱狗都會出晒。


> 你認為會否派冷馬甚至剛出牌的都普躉呢?





I guess even LF, SF,DS,LV will be used (but making some students and teachers angry)


So, LM/DM/MC are suitable.





Are any boardmates studying at Tung Wah Group of Hospitals schools.





maybe go to Siu Sai Wan on Fri.


John--2100


Bus Infonet


Article 37: (Request 1)

YES, i want a Trdient...................


Article 37: (Request 2)

我咪係o羅!


但會否調一些十二米熱狗回戰呢?


Article 38:

(Ad) HK Joking Routes Suggestion Centre


Citybus 291 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) from ustsu18-nc2.ust.hk at Mon Dec 7 13:48, 1998 said:


Hong Kong Joking Routes Suggestion Centre is now opened! You can post any kind of HK bus route suggestions there, no matter how ridiculous & unrealistic they are!





Citybus 291