Today's Articles: 32.
Articles' Numbers: (19980924_01-32)
Article 1:
Re: [第一次板務建議]路線建議欄
L.Verde (gw7112li@netvigator.com) from hhtam021206.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 20:15, 1998 said:
> 豐巴 (simong@netvigator.com) said:
> 在此板貼的文中,有接近一成的文都是一些路線建議,
> 我建議在此板增設一個[路線建議欄],所有路線建議都在那裡貼,
> 與其他類型文章分開,相信不會耗費很多時間及位置
> 不知各板友意見如何?
小弟覺得冇需要o卦!
閣下認為呢度近一成o既文都係路線建議, 不妨睇真o下, 呢一成裡面
有幾多係有根有據, 經過深思熟慮o既可行建議, 抑或係痴人說夢,
講o黎得啖笑o既廢線建議？
特登開個位俾佢o地, 即係鼓勵佢o地係咁建議埋Ｄ好似大澳去沙頭角,
龍鼓灘去石澳, 黃石碼頭去機場... o既巴士線o者.
講真, 今時今日o既香港巴士路線網, 重有幾多開新線o既空間？大家
心照. 遲Ｄ開埋將軍澳地鐵, 西鐵, 馬鐵, 就更加唔使講, 唉...
凱日‧豪原
Article 1: (Request 1)
其實你可以去呢個由AV89【Ivy】的939網頁發表你的路線建議 ^_^
Johnny Kwok
VA-61~~~~~~HP 8961
Article 2:
Re: 【翻譯文章】富豪巴士新型號 － Ｂ７Ｌ
Flying Chuk (chuk@netvigator.com) from yckam014029.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 21:51, 1998 said:
> Gakei! (gakei@netvigator.com) said:
> 富豪巴士新型號 - B7L
>
> 新底盤型號為 B7L，共有兩個版本，分別是鋁製的 5000 型和不 '瘦' 鋼製的 7000
> 型。
不 '瘦' 鋼製會唔會重左D呢?
新巴士採用低地台設計，引擎是直立及縱置地安放在左邊車尾，及以 80 度
> 角與尾軸連接的。至於地台高度方面，車頭至中門是 320 mm，一直上升至車尾
> 的 345 mm。
偪偈怎樣又直立又縱置?
> 新型號也有雙層版
>
> 在九七年 Coach & Bus 展覽中亮相的 Plaxton President 巴士正是 B7L
> 的雙層版本的原型，跟單層版本不同的是，雙層版本採用橫置引擎。引擎仍是 D7C
> 型，但只有 215 bhp 和 250 bhp 兩個選擇。引擎動力經波箱後也是以 80 度
> 角傳送至尾軸，但位置是右邊車尾，而不是單層版本所採用的左邊。
>
> 新巴士現已獲得近 100 架的訂單，車身供應包括了 Plaxton 和 Alexander。
用ALX400及ALX500也?
>
> (節錄自 BUSES 十月號第七頁)
>
> --
> 車匙!
(PS:遍文咁似Volvo B7L的新聞稿o既?)
飛機竺
Article 2: (Request 1)
> Citybus 10 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) said:
>
> It is an almost perfect bus chassis because its chassis is very low in height. Its transverse engine saves space & creates a quieter cabin. Its 7.3L engine is fuel-saving. But its output is quite limited, so it is necessary to have an option of 305bhp for double deckers, especially for 12m AC version.
> Also, horizontal engines can be placed at the right side of the back end below the seats, with AC unit at the left side of the back end. This allows articulated version of the bus to be made later. This also spares extra space which is previously used by engine.
> Citybus 10
非縱置引擎而俾超過300匹馬力對底盤會唔會唔係太好呀?
Article 2: (Request 2)
> Kwan (SFAC3A09@NETVIGATOR.COM) said:
>
> 係唔係又係闊了5cm呀?Plaxton President正係衰在此處.
此話何解？車身闊 2550mm 會有甚麼問題？
> 會唔會似山寨躉?
小弟估計，Alexander 方面應該要沿用 ALX500 車身，一如其 ALX
系列車身用於多款底盤一樣．
Victor
Article 2: (Request 3)
> Gakei! (gakei@netvigator.com) said:
>
> 原文是 Verticle engine mounted in line.
>
> 我想直立是指與地平線比, 而縱置則是跟車軸成 90 度角.
>
> --
> 車匙!
或可以譯成'直列引擎'，或許是'直六引擎'。
Damon
Article 2: (Request 4)
文中指的應是兩軸熱狗版, 九巴的是三軸冷氣版 ...
Article 2: (Request 5)
> Gakei! (gakei@netvigator.com) said:
> 富豪巴士新型號 - B7L
>
>
> 新巴士現已獲得近 100 架的訂單，車身供應包括了 Plaxton 和 Alexander。
>
(節錄自 BUSES 十月號第七頁)
>
> --
> 車匙!
有沒有相片看呀？好鬼心急想睇佢樣子呀！
Bruce
Article 3:
Re: 城巴抵死!?
鮑魚 (leyland@netvigator.com) from hhttnt02130.netvigator.com at Thu Sep 24 02:40, 1998 said:
> Vincent (sfub@hkucc.hku.hk) said:
> 城巴半年中期業績
>
> http://www2.appledaily.com.hk/pages/fin_main.htm
> or
> http://www.appledaily.com.hk/apple.cgi?docid=fin/980923
> 題目是'徐展堂旗艦虧蝕巨'
看到這個題目,令我諗住之前很多板友提及過的'巴士公司為利潤著想'這個理論.
基於這個理念下,城巴係抵佢死的.
城巴收592時,為何要減車費呢?反正是獨市生意,難道會有人走到西村搭巴士出
銅鑼灣嗎?就算係也不打緊,反正92又係城巴.所以以之前的理念來說,城巴係一個
笨蛋.
37X(即前537)亦一樣,反正唔搭537也只有搭37B,反正減價也不會增加市場,真不知
城巴減價來幹麼?
城巴將前中巴冷巴的價錢減回同區相約路線的價錢,只是為了一點,合理.
所以懇請新巴將590減回4.70吧.
可以咁講,城巴係一間頗合理的公司,凡係合理的公司,我都喜歡.
好像地鐵就係一間好合理的公司,打過佢工的人就知0架啦.所以我現在也不抗拒搭
地鐵.
鮑魚
Article 3: (Request 1)
> 鮑魚 (leyland@netvigator.com) said:
> 城巴減價來幹麼?
> 城巴將前中巴冷巴的價錢減回同區相約路線的價錢,只是為了一點,合理.
> 所以懇請新巴將590減回4.70吧.
> 可以咁講,城巴係一間頗合理的公司,凡係合理的公司,我都喜歡.
> 好像地鐵就係一間好合理的公司,打過佢工的人就知0架啦.所以我現在也不抗拒搭
> 地鐵.
凡係違反市場規律, 不惜蝕本以本傷人, 做成惡性競爭, 亂派吉車
阻塞交通, 都不可能是 '合理' 的.
城巴再以這種不健康的情況發展下去, 不理成本效益, 只求打擊對手,
市場佔有率, 真是不得不說 -- 遲早執笠.
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車匙!
Article 3: (Request 2)
客量增加但業積倒退
不知道大家會想到怎麼呢？
城記不善用資源，日日玩表演，仲想有錢搵？
Article 3: (Request 3)
我今日都有睇到,原本想第一時間講,但係無所
謂啦!呢篇新聞睇怕都係一眾中記迷一大喜訊
!看來城記破產都係遲早的事.
p.s.學校學生會候選政黨爭取到學生係巴鼠世
界買野有九折,太正了!
Article 3: (Request 4)
> Citybus 10 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) said:
>
> That's impossible even Citybus profit is decreased, because Citybus now is paying back money to the banks for new buses, but when the money are all paid after 3-5 years, the expenditure of CTB is less, but income is more because of East Kowloon routes. Thus this year's lower profit is just temporary.
我諗城巴就唔會清盤o既(大不了咪好似英國某同名o既巴士公司咁，
賣俾「一汽集團」:p)。之但係五年前當城巴借錢買3xx時，我地都
會相信幾年後間公司可以還清o的錢。幾年複幾年，點知間公司不斷
買車，不斷借錢，所借o既仲多過還，錢好似還極都唔完，而個雪球
就越滾滾大......
除非城巴唔再大手買車啦，之但係「城巴」呢個名就係靠好似「不停
抵港o既新巴士、不停推出o既新驚喜」o黎唔o黎維持，如果萬一佢一
年由買二百架新車變為買得o果二三十架，結果會係點？
就係：神話滅亡！
Article 3: (Request 5)
城巴咁重視市場佔有率, 話唔定第時開多好多廢線, 咁又係要買
車, 到頭來永世冇錢搵
Article 3: (Request 6)
Can it last 3 to 5 years is the question, no one knows what
happens the next day....
SuperBus Australia
Article 3: (Request 7)
其實自從開了東涌線之後, 我覺得城記的情況會更加差!! 因為你們
看 E22 呀! 我在某周未的傍晚繁忙時間只有不足十個人搭! 而且重
是二十分鐘一班! 你話點死呀!! 返而在東涌及機場龍運賺的錢比城
記賺得多! 主要原因是東涌線, 因為如果你由市區入東涌, 留下有地
龍和巴士選擇, 我當然會考慮地龍先! 因為至少地龍行車時間較為準
確, 而且不怕道路環境導致塞車, 還有一點, 就是由中環去東涌/機
場, 機鐵/地龍比巴士快些少.
PS:請問一架專利巴士公司的雙層冷氣巴士一天用多少油和一天用的
油費是多少?
B-2051
Article 3: (Request 8)
> K.Y.Chung (w3d080r@school.net.hk) said:
> 我今日都有睇到,原本想第一時間講,但係無所
> 謂啦!呢篇新聞睇怕都係一眾中記迷一大喜訊
> !看來城記破產都係遲早的事.
相信不是所有中巴迷會這樣激吧?
如果城巴破產唔撈的話就好玩咯!又再招標,又再搵公司頂手......
而且最大的問題係,如果城巴都要蝕到清盤的話,仲有邊個肯做?
到時咪盞攪.
自己衰,也不想別人一齊衰吧.攪住一齊死,害死的係乘客.
鮑魚
Article 3: (Request 9)
城巴賺少咁多, 主要係因為佢經營唔多考慮成本效益, 濫開新線,
濫加班次, 巴士呢一行根本可以好好賺的, 就算佢做到清盤都係佢
咎由自取, 唔代表俾其他公司做都會係咁.
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車匙!
Article 3: (Request 10)
我諗君唔適宜用咁o既態度去睇呢件事。
第一，君咁o既講法比較...... 刻薄。
第二，佢只係賺少o左錢。
第三，佢呢幾年o既擴展洗o左好多錢買車，買o左車就可以
做生意，尤其有 788 呢類 '蝕錢線'，佢筆生意唔憂做。
第四，公佈o既只係紙上面o既數字，唔足夠證明佢會清
盤。
不過，我就戥一眾城巴股東唔抵，今年冇息派之餘，個價
仲幾低，食之無用，棄之可惜可謂如此。
417
Article 3: (Request 11)
唔係破產, 係清盤.
賺少o左錢, 即係仲有錢賺, 邊會咁易執笠 (清盤) ?
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車匙!
Article 4:
Re: 討論九巴冷氣化問題
Eddie Lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) from saturn.hkbu.edu.hk at Wed Sep 23 23:17, 1998 said:
Colin Chang (kalim@netvigator.com) said:
> 雖然，九巴到時剩低o既巴士，都會係一o的比較新o既熱狗，之但係「有冷
> 氣o既係新車、無冷氣o既就係舊車」o既觀念已開始普遍，咁到時九巴豈不
> 是要「挨鬧」挨多三年半？如果市民o既不滿聲音越高，對九巴o既形象做
> 成損害，咁九巴響爭開新線同競投新區巴士路線方面就會少o左籌碼。
咁你又放心, 似乎暫時只有港島市民被城巴寵壞, 「冷氣車係新車、無
冷氣車係舊車」此等言論仍然未完全滲透 (係完全, 一定有人咁諗) 九龍
新界區居民o既腦裡面──可能因為九巴仍然壟斷絕大部份九龍新界市場.
到城巴或其他巴士公司利用全冷氣車打入九龍新界區市場時, 九巴都係時候
諗下點「乙水」掂班客.
> 九巴車隊三千幾，而家約一半係冷氣車，以九巴目前約一年300架o既購車速
> 度，兩年半後九巴仲會有約800-1000架普通巴士，數目唔少。以目前乘客需
> 求發展形勢o黎睇，除非將每年o既購車數目提高一倍，否則難以追上其他公
> 司o既「全冷速度」。不過，九巴以往似乎從未試過一年內買咁多新車，呢個
> 又涉及經濟效益問題。
「全冷速度」似乎係外界給予巴士公司o既一種壓力. 巴士公司有自己o既
營運方式 (好似 Alex Chan 話城巴鍾意跳飛機一樣), 九巴係鍾意現階段
維持適當熱狗冷馬比率, 就冇乜人可以迫到佢. 當然, 佢都要買新車去取締
舊車, 但咁唔係為左有其他公司係咁所以九巴都要跟從.
所以我認為, 九巴無須提高購車量. 事實上, 巴士裝嵌商, 巴士底盤供應商
又可唔可以突然大量生產如此數量新貨, 去幫九巴同人鬥多新車?
> 而家我想提出討論o既問題係：九巴會否因應對手轉全冷o既速度而增加購
> 車數目呢？可能性同可行性又高唔高呢？(「不為」與「不能」o既問題)
我地小人物左右唔到巴士公司o既決定, 只係可以話應唔應該囉.
我覺得唔係太應該囉. 九巴係大公司, 新巴城巴相比之下細咁多, 人地全冷,
人地裝晒八達通機, 一定快過你九巴, 下下同人鬥, 自己蝕底.
Article 4: (Request 1)
基本上轉冷氣的大潮流,是無法避免的.早陣子亦曾跟板友討論過冷熱比例分
配問題.但長篇大論一留後,我竟然忘記了一年事.
三巴已經不再買新的熱巴.
這代表什麼呢?這代表若干年後,當現有的熱巴因車齡的問題而退役時,也再不
會有新的熱巴出現.既然如此,即係遲早也是改全冷.咁梗係快改好過慢改啦!
如果當新,城巴轉全冷後九巴仍未轉的時候,好可能會被比了下來.到時又因此
事玩cut線的話,就死得唔抵啦.
所以都係快d改好了.
想加快全冷的話唔係唔得.不過我想要訂多d其他製造商的車吧.個個買齋等,
DENNIS點做得切?所以九巴買'你好笨'係好事,至少分幾間廠買,出貨都快D吧.
MAN固然係好選擇,VOLVO,BENZ,甚至乎IVECO都可以考慮.
鮑魚
Article 4: (Request 2)
> anthony LAM (lsf@hknet.com) said:
> 以我o既記憶(可能記錯),九巴係好多年前話過將會轉晒冷氣巴,但
> 係d議員就係到反對,又發起簽名運動等,搞到九巴冷氣化廷遲左,
> 如今如果有人鬧九巴轉冷氣車轉得慢,唔該叫佢搵返果時的區議員
> 出來鬧.
我同意,以葵青區為例,當年九巴要將城隧X線冷氣化,但一些白鴿黨
議員反對.今時今日,這些白鴿黨議員卻要求九巴將城隧X線冷氣化.
'神又係佢,鬼又係佢'真令人氣憤.
Thanks
Steven
Article 4: (Request 3)
睇完咁多位o既文章，我想要講一o的個人所見。
我係一個住響俗稱「第一個城巴縱壞區」──南區o既人，我發覺南區巴士乘客，
以至而家o既港島巴士乘客，對巴士服務o既要求係響好短時間之內有極大o既改變
，當然，呢o的改變o既主因係由於城巴冷氣化而引起o既，而近期新巴經常宣傳「
快轉全冷」亦對乘客有影響。大部分o既巴士乘客o既新標準會係要求冷氣化、班次
密、同低收費o既巴士服務(排名分先後，當然呢點同我個人o既想法有唔同，但呢
篇文只係寫觀察所見o既現象，唔會寫出個人觀點)，剩低o既小部分就係要求低收
費服務，不過可能因為佢地來自低收入階層，加上數目唔夠「主冷派」多，發出o既
聲音無咁強烈。
如果呢班乘客搬o左去九龍同新界區，可能未必會習慣。對一個每朝坐城巴72由南
區番工o既乘客而言，當佢搬入馬鞍山住之後，佢可能會對於85K、81C及87D等大線
「竟然仲有大量熱狗」深表不滿──正如當年佢見到新巴38o既DM都唔會上車一樣，
不過今次佢無得選擇路線，只可以等下一班直至冷氣車出現(如果佢堅持的話)、或
照上熱狗但滿肚怨言(如果趕時間的話)。對於佢地o黎講，唔理你架車係珍寶定係S3V
(真o架！你去坐o下熱狗38或42啦，雖然o果架可能係91年o既DM，但係好多乘客都會
話架車「好舊」、「落後」、「不合時宜」甚至響好猛風o既南區道路上話「好焗」)
，雖然車有新舊，都係無冷氣o既巴士，即係──舊車，或議員口中o既「鐵板燒」！
我發覺「九巴服務區」o既原有乘客雖然都會較喜歡冷氣巴士，但似乎仍然未去到大部
分乘客(當然，部分例外)都好似唔少港島居民咁開始「抗拒普通巴士」o既地步。以前
響短途線又或行經山路o既路線(即係唔會太焗o既路線)，港島乘客似乎唔太介意坐普通
巴士。到而家佢地可能都會坐，但就算車廂真係唔太熱，佢地都會有怨言，根本問題係
「習慣」已經改變o左。
不過，要留意港島居民由「仍然接受」到開始「抗拒」不過係呢兩三年間o既事。好
難講到o左兩年半──亦即係新巴宣稱轉全冷之時，「九巴服務區」o既乘客口味唔會
有類似o既轉變。特別係如果有其他巴士公司開始響「九巴服務區」提供內陸巴士服
務之後，而呢個情況亦好可能會響幾年內發生。就算唔提其他公司，好簡單，以一個
九巴74X/75X常客為例，坐慣冷氣車o既佢，見到72X、73X甚至71A、71Ko既熱狗都可
能會「耍手擰頭」。
哈哈，本來係想就住九巴冷氣化問題進行討論，但似乎已經講到各地乘客o既乘車模
式同習慣，似乎呢個有一個幾有趣o既問題。
Article 4: (Request 4)
中四經濟學一開始已經有講: 人有無限欲望. ㊣所謂人心無厭足, 當你坐慣左
冷氣巴士, 住嚮一個只有冷氣巴士服務o既地區時, 你自然會覺得, 一架巴士o既
最低要求係: 有冷氣.
OK, 港島南區有城巴出現後, 不經不覺佢全冷喇. 乘客第一個欲望達成後,
就有第二個希望: 班次密. 城巴就係睇中呢點, 於是每條線都提供一個頻密班次,
再達成乘客o既願望. 呢樣野城巴依然進行中, 需要幾耐時間仲係未知之數.
但依照村長提出o既「Kinder 出奇蛋巴士服務」, 當班次密呢樣野都做埋時,
乘客們就想減價, 一來而家經濟唔好, 二來佢地都享受左全冷氣班次密o既巴士
服務, 又要諗下有邊方面令自己得益. 之但係, 要巴士公司減價就較為困難.
巴士公司年年加價, 你要佢唱反調? 又冇乜可能. 大家估下乘客們下一個願望
係乜?
Article 4: (Request 5)
> Walter Kwong (h9816113@hkusua.hku.hk) said:
> 咁又唔係丫，以 72X 為例，呢家唔係冷馬既話，會有好多人唔上架，仲聽過
> 有人：點解唔全冷？
長途線當然也應列入優先轉全冷之列
> 唔係架，如果再唔快Ｄ全冷，又會俾區議員同呢度既城巴迷講：唔該 cut 線
> 俾城巴
唔好講笑, 呢個方法真係幾有效o架, 買新車的壓力轉移o左俾城巴囉, 幾好o丫.
> 學城巴咁囉，除左 Volvo Dennis 同 Neoplan，咪買下 MAN , DAF 其他車囉
比較冒險, 好似當年 Seddon Pennie 咁就大鑊.
> 其實可以分區進行：如新區／有競爭區改善先囉，好似將 Junk Bay
> 全冷，同小巴玩過囉
同意
--
車匙!
Article 4: (Request 6)
好似 74K , 87 呢Ｄ冇得救的線，如果真係唔想救，可以
最後先冷氣化啦！
Article 4: (Request 7)
> Gakei! (gakei@netvigator.com) said:
>
> 權宜之計 ... 先把市區線和隧道線冷氣化, 新界線遲一點囉,
> 總之在市區見唔到熱狗, 可能都好少少卦 :p
再不是就快快在三年內淘汰所有十二米熱狗,故將來需買多些十二米
冷馬,同時買多些十米車,代表旗下所有細熱狗.
至於那班十一米性能較好,尤其是奧林比安,可遲些淘汰,反正
以前港島居民不愛中巴舊車通常是寶及雞,甚至是最期那班嘉慕,未
至全部熱狗都消失...
我相信九巴買新車已經好多,在市民眼中算改善服務了
F-stephen
Article 5:
Re: 水塘豪上的艷遇之「OL」誘惑
金魚 (n960@hkabc.net) from ppp253085.hkabc.net at Thu Sep 24 11:07, 1998 said:
> 巴士放射學技師 (96013269d@polyu.edu.hk) said:
> 昨天小弟回家，坐著架水塘豪 118 掛牌。按小弟的習慣，坐富豪
> 此類「笠」車，必定要坐導航位，否則隨時睡著。昨天班車乘客
> 不多，水塘「乾涸」。本來無甚特別……
>
> 但我轉頭向右往車廂一瞄，上天賜我無比艷福：一位穿著西裝衫配
> 短裙、瓜子口面、樣貌娟好、長髮彼肩、雙眼水汪汪的 Office Lady，
> 坐在右面水塘位後第一排座位近窗口位上。嘩，她那雪白而修長的
> 美腿、裙內的春光盡收眼底……（以下內容極為不雅，且有灌水之
> 嫌，故已被刪除。有何幻想，悉隨尊便。）
>
> 九巴呀！快些改善水塘豪的設計吧！免得我等正值血氣方剛之輩噴
> 鼻血、暈倒當場吧！
>
> P. S. 我是男兒一名，我應否提醒那位女仕？（我怕我和她會難為情
唉!十幾歲仔,你見到這樣就話嘖哂血啦,大個仔點算呀,我真係
為你擔心,再係0甘,香港又多個色狼啦!!
已有女朋友的金魚字 DB7872 HS7872 HU7872
Article 5: (Request 1)
嘩。 唔駛幻想咯，你都講晒個情景咯！
不過我覺得坐親導航位， 都好多時有o尼 D 野發生，好似今日我
坐 962 #506 導航位， 對面個姐姐仔又係著條短到唔短既裙...
詳情唔講咯。不過o尼過唔同水塘豪， 係死症。
盡量唔好噴污槽車廂啦， 唔該.. ha ha ha.. :)
我唸都係唔好啦， 唔係佢以為你有心'莊莊貢'。。。
Cummins LT10
Article 5: (Request 2)
唉！你都算正人君子咯！我見過有班賤人衰到坐過雙層巴士樓下，
樓梯打後第一行右邊位，仲要坐近通道，
架車差唔多埋站佢就岳高頭裝條樓梯，
我以為佢有朋友響樓上，點之見佢次次埋站都係咁望……
奉勸各位女士，著短裙仔係好靚，
但係坐車時就唔好坐樓上啦！
無謂益o左班賤人喇……
哈哈……經驗之談，勸你都係當睇到唔好D咯……
你自己又尷尬，個女仔又唔好意思，
仲分分鐘當o左你係色狼tim！
近來港島東區色魔當道！小心！小心…
唔好咁浪費，捐俾紅十字會啦！
118經過加士居道口，o個度有個捐血站……
夠期去……(捐血呀！)的
LX253
^_^!(wakuwaku!/狂笑吧！)
Article 5: (Request 3)
好心九記快D學城記D Dart咁加番塊板o係水塘側邊啦!
Article 6:
Re: 只掛牌一條線的巴士
Citybus 10 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) from ustsu18-nc2.ust.hk at Thu Sep 24 12:45, 1998 said:
> L.Verde (gw7112li@netvigator.com) said:
> 有些巴士線的掛牌/字軌車, 是由新車落地時已編配走這條線, 直到今
> 時今日, 甚至到退役為止.
>
> 請問有哪些路線還有這些車？條件：起碼掛牌十年或以上
>
> 以小弟所見有:
> 九記5C (CM牌鴨車)
> 九記7B, 91, 92 (都普鴨)
> 舊時九記3B (CA/CB牌鴨車, 79年行到96年退役!)
> 九記6C (至少有3N95/DJ6711同3N191/DM3103)
> 新記101同106部份ML
>
> 各位請繼續...
>
> 凱日‧豪原
Also the NWFB w/ 'Shop Theft is a crime. Don't do that' Ad from the police on NWFB 4.
Article 6: (Request 1)
3N51算唔算呀, 我八六年搭己經是2號, 但唔知之前係唔係掛.
唔知會唔會係112調過來.
仲有大量老虎頭都無轉過線:(不過都未夠十年)
60X:S3BL421-424,427-428,444-445,465,467.
87D:S3BL448-450,455,458.
49X:S3BL468(436同437係唔係甩左呀)
密龍:
60X:S3N300,301.
73X:S3N303,314.
43:S3N298.
開龍:
61X:S3N324,342.
60X:S3N227-228.
69X:S3N357.
98A:S3N366-369.
利蘭:(呢個夠九年掛)
59M:S3BL264-272.
ML56-105(由有念慈奄廣告開始已見行105, 而家行905, 算唔算呀)
PLEASE Continue.
Jess
Article 6: (Request 2)
> 輝仔 (c5124176@comp.polyu.edu.hk) said:
>
> 3N191掛o左2好耐咯!
冇錯,同DJ9021對調左...
金魚字 DB7872 HS7872 HU7872
Article 7:
Oh...連101都有...
GB2444,FX8032 (jackie01@hknet.com) from hhtam036211.netvigator.com at Thu Sep 24 10:45, 1998 said:
尋日見到架AD320行101,o係車頭塊大銀幕下邊,
有個'丹尼士'o既'水牌'(你都估到係邊隻水牌啦)...
仲有幾多架車係有o架,等我去剷除晒佢!!!
見到自己(GB2444)俾人貼水牌而好無奈o既Tony(GB2444,FX8032)
ICQ:8791015
Article 7: (Request 1)
> WingKit (tslmis@hkstar.com) said:
> 先排先貼過篇文勸這位仁兄收手，點知那位仁兄仲不斷有“新作”
> 出現，真係“明頑不寧”，唉... 可能只有警方告佢刑事毀壞，
> 才可以令佢收手。
我都唔明點解o尼班人點極都唔明。 究竟佢地o甘做以為可以
代表 D 乜？
不過我想講俾佢聽o尼 D 行為係其他人眼中只係 D 非常無聊
同唔成熟既表現。
> 絕對支持! 首先係GB2444的車尾。
應該係所有車 ：) 見一個殺一個！
希望見到車子原貌的
Cummins LT10
Article 7: (Request 2)
咦? AD320? 係 690 掛牌車黎喎, 行將軍澳區....
弊, 我又好自然估到係邊班人做添....
仲有 AD324 (新都城) , 又係 101 掛牌, 車頭有假水牌架.
Article 8:
劫後餘生的中記站牌
Robert XF176 (roberthk@netvigator.com) from imsp038.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 23:34, 1998 said:
今晚(23/9), 我發現波斯富街近泉章X的門口, 還有一個劫後餘生的
中記站牌, 款式是巴士需停車的平面版, 而上面還有63號的牌。
親愛的版友們, 請問在那裏還有末被人消滅的餘黨, 特別是生鐵造的那一款?
又問必達回收中記站牌後會怎樣處理? 當廢鐵賣還是送回新巴, 又或是賣給巴士迷?
Robert
XF176 DA1998
PS: 問:巴士零件的價格？問盤, 牌布, 水牌, 及其它零仲的現在價格?
Article 8: (Request 1)
跑馬地(上)總站附近還有一個中記 19 號站牌, 不過用鐵片
造.
Ken
Article 8: (Request 2)
生鐵牌應該俾人偷得七七八八架喇.
其他站呢....早排見盧押道電燈柱仲有一個 601 站, 好隱蔽下,
唔知仲健唔健在喇.
Article 8: (Request 3)
交回中巴.
Article 9:
Re: 九巴LANCE改龍運
Volvo (S3BL1) (volvo@school.net.hk) from blue.alumni.cuhk.edu.hk at Wed Sep 23 23:49, 1998 said:
> 金魚 (n960@hkabc.net) said:
> 自從九巴AN20 FS7880改龍運後,據悉將陸續有
> 更多LANCE改去龍運,但不會全部轉.
今日搭機鐵經過荔廠, 見天台已擺了六七架上了龍運色的 AN,
AN 過龍運的日子不遠了.
另想問, 呢批 AN 是否會改車輛登記為龍運? 而改呢個過程又駛
唔駛先從 KMB 除牌, 再由龍運當新車咁再發新行車証及車牌編號
呢?
> 另外,金躉車牌出到HW4XXX,但係新牌未到手,
> 如有,我會在這裡公佈.....
>
> 金魚字 DB7872 HS7872 HU7872
Article 9: (Request 1)
車牌就唔駛轉,不過編號就.......
金魚字 DB7872 HS7872 HU7872
Article 9: (Request 2)
這叫做'過戶'，和你普通買二手車一樣。只要填表和交一千大元就可
以把車主由一個名轉到另一個名。不要'從 KMB 除牌, 再由龍運當新車
咁再發新行車証及車牌編號'
Damon
Article 10:
Re: 「請往後門落車」貼紙
Ricky Chan (95098987d@polyu.edu.hk) from 202.85.94.84 at Thu Sep 24 01:14, 1998 said:
> Eddie Lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:
> 大家有冇發覺呢款貼紙已經冇再出現於九巴巴士車廂?
> 點解搣晒呢?
其實呢張貼紙係於初初轉'一人控制'時首創的,
原意是貼在前門及後門中間, 讓乘客不會從前門
落車. 但後來卻貼於近車尾位置, 似乎用途就不大了.
Ricky Chan
Article 10: (Request 1)
Should it be '請往中門落車'?
For my personal opinion, they disappear because most of the
bus passenger know to get off thru middle door. I think
the sign is useful when buses start changing from one door
operation to 2 doors operation.
LF2 (BE 8749)
Article 10: (Request 2)
可能'後門'呢個terms與現今的巴士不協調o卦...
（家陣仲有未改裝o既Daimler CVG5咩？:P）
Peter
Article 11:
新巴電視廣告
Mike NG(CMB-LF126) (ngmike@hkstar.com) from 202.76.100.110 at Thu Sep 24 14:12, 1998 said:
尋晚睇有線電視, 睇到新巴落o左一條定格廣告片, 幫4X做宣傳,
唔知有裝有線o既板友們有冇睇過呢?
又想問問各位南區板友, 4X o既生意係點?
Mike NG(CMB-LF126)
o係寫字樓
Article 11: (Request 1)
仲有 8P 廣告架
Article 11: (Request 2)
How good it would be if I can see a Citybus TV AD with Ah-Lack in it!
Citybus 10
Article 12:
Need a better system...
100/911R Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) from hhttnt08002.netvigator.com at Thu Sep 24 00:54, 1998 said:
Last Saturday night my older brother travelled on N216 back to Tsim Sha Tsui.
He was transferred from a N293 bus, hence he deposited the transfer ticket along with the additional coins required as he left the bus.
However, the driver (with a very angry tone) yelled at my brother and claimed he didn't deposit the additional fare. (which was covered by the ticked)
Of course my brother refused to pay twice, hence they went to the police station and reported the case.
My brother also complained to KMB, and it replied yesterday with an apology and said it was just a mistake.
In addition to the attitude problem of the driver, my brother also questioned about the transfer ticket system.
Why couldn't the ticket be collected by the driver, just like the case in San Francisco, so such misunderstanding won't happen again.
I understand KMB would probably count how many transfer tickets are collected. However, can't the ticket be collected by the driver into another box. (garbage can in San Francisco's case)
Or else KMB doesn't trust its stuff and worry they'd collect the tickets themselves and resell them or something?
100/911R Wong
Article 12: (Request 1)
Well, perhaps KMB has think about the possible security problems before deciding that the transfer tickets should be deposited into the farebox instead of being collected by the driver.
Article 12: (Request 2)
As I have told repeatedly, a better interchange system is needed. This system only requires the passengers to pay the fare once in the first bus trip. When he pay the fare, he is received a ticket which must be returned to the exit gate when leaving to prevent passengers taking a long trip of bus yet paying insufficient fare. If he needs to have an interchange (the passenger has already selected the final destination when eentering the first bus), he would receive an interchange ticket on leaving the frist bus & it must be paid in the second bus.
If he is using an Octopus, the thing is even simpler. He just needs to select the destination when boarding the first bus & put the Octopus on the reader. When the bus reaches the interchange station, he can leave it simply by showing the Octopus on the reader. He can take the second bus that takes him to his wanted destination within half an hour by just showing the Octopus again (This time, no money is deducted. It is just for verification to prevent underpaying).
Such system is simple to use, especially when you ar using Octopus. It also prevents evasion of fares effectively. So this system should be applied to make interchange more seamlessly. This also reduces the need for direct services & reduces travelling time, which is a benefit to both bus companies & passengers.
Citybus 10
Article 13:
彌敦道一段下月封19月,影響十萬巴士客
大腦電波 (leungtam@hknet.com) from mp1927.hknet.com at Thu Sep 24 13:51, 1998 said:
請看今日生果日報
內文
經彌敦道(荔枝角道至界限街一段)巴士改道安排
Article 13: (Request 1)
以上資料亦同時放於 巴士狂熱──特別交通安排 裡.
Article 14:
Re: 新巴士,三月臭.
LF2 (BE 8749) (huil@genrad.com) from 132.223.232.153 at Thu Sep 24 01:56, 1998 said:
> 鮑魚 (leyland@netvigator.com) said:
> 唔知點解,而家新落地的單層巴士,都有一陣好臭的膠味.
> 城巴的MAN都落0左地成幾個月啦,仲係有D臭味0既?
> 新巴DART仲離譜,今日搭19號去馬場,差點兒沒暈低.
>
> 究竟D膠味是從那裡來呢?又,有冇辦法'PIG'0左陣味去?
>
> 今日全靠新巴塞車,打開勝利之門的
> 鮑魚
I think every new bus/car will do the same due to the brand
new plastic components. I think it mainly come from the
seats. The best way to remove it is to use air refresher.
(for my experience on cars).
LF2 (BE 8749)
Article 15:
Re: 問板主:字/掛表的三個月期限
Ken Fung (kenf@hkstar.com) from 202.68.58.226 at Thu Sep 24 01:29, 1998 said:
> Jacky,AL65 (williamc@tsl.net.hk) said:
> 若從6月3日下午1時52分之後到
> 十月一日路線仍未作出更新,
> 那路線的負責人會否終止[專營權],
> 而路線是否會[公開競投]?
十月五日開始, 路線如果於過去三個內未作出任何更改,
將會再作公開競投, 而被 '炒魷' 的負責人不能參與競投.
Ken
Article 16:
問路---青衣
Wes (mabelho@netvigator.com) from hhtam003108.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 21:57, 1998 said:
本人快去青衣TC讀書,於我住在HK Island, 不得不搭地龍.
現在請問各位,本人返學時應坐咩呢?
1)Kwai Fong MTR->88C minibus->TYTC
Advantage:平,直接.
Disadvantage:怕rush hour多人坐(本人返學時間約9:30)
2)Tsing Yi MTR->249M ->TYTC
Advantage:肯定有位,轉少次車
Disadvantage:貴,行比較遠
請各位幫忙.
Thanks a lot.
WES
Article 16: (Request 1)
如果我會提議以下, 希望你會接納
搭地龍去美孚轉42A, 43C, 可能車費較貴,但我覺得會較快
想問你住港島邊到, 我可能有更多提議
我用E MAIL 問我O拉.
Article 17:
問CU：『穿梭』與『轉堂』
LX253 (kcchan@speednet.net) from 241-10.speednet.net at Wed Sep 23 18:54, 1998 said:
想問下讀中大o既板友，你o地校內有幾多條巴士線呢？
今日去信和樓附近，見到個巴士站時間表……
複雜到唔識睇！(可能我低能少少啦^_^！)
仲有分『穿梭』同埋『轉堂』，請問有乜分別呢？
p.s.今日響校徽總覽搵到自己母校校徽，好開心！！
今日和一位友人行中大火車站附近個大水池，開心到
樂而忘返，同友人影o左好多相的
LX253
^_^ (ai no ekao wa saimo kirei da ne!/愛的笑容最燦爛！)
Article 17: (Request 1)
中大校巴分大巴和小巴兩種．
廿四座冷氣小巴要收費，由火車站來往教職員宿舍（十幾苑），經崇
基路，科學館，聯合／新亞／逸夫（不同班次經不同地點）．
學生主要搭大巴，又分”穿梭”巴和”轉堂”巴．
穿梭巴有兩條線，火車站＜＞新亞主線，和中央本部＜＞逸夫支線．
主線開上午7:30 - 晚上11:15，上行線基本15分一班，晚上7:15-8:15
無車，之後30分一班. 下行線基本30分一班，下午4:30-7:15每15分一
班, 之後8:00-11:00尾車30分一班. 班次有點複雜, 請看時間表.
（神奇！中大校巴時間表都上網）
星期日同假期，班次勁疏，請留意．
”轉堂”校巴祇在上課日子才開，上午9:15至下午5:15，每小時的15分
開一批(不是一班)，新亞下崇基，又由崇基上新亞，下行車加停火車
站尾站，讓同學放學離校.
凱日‧豪原
Article 18:
ZF 2HP45 2-speed automatic
SuperBuzz Sydney (dccheng@acs.itd.uts.edu.au) from kauri10.itd.uts.edu.au at Thu Sep 24 14:38, 1998 said:
Earlier on Chi Ma talked about the slowness and vibration in
a Melbourne MAN SL200 with a ZF 2-speed.
I have been on such buses as well, both in Melbourne and Sydney,
as Sydney has got some ex-ACTION, Canberra MAN SL200 which are
2-speed as well. Brisbane has got some Leyland Panthers and Volvo B59s for your interest.
The acceleration and top speed is no doubt not as good as modern
buses, but 65km/h is not bad when you consider a Fleetline's top
speed is only 38 miles/hour, which is 60km/h...
In regard to the vibration, I didn't encounter any of those you
mentioned but the vibration whilst motionless is just ridicolous.
But every old bus vibrates when stopped I believe.
To me, the 2-speed was quite interesting as it was slower than any
other bus.
One point to take note is that I noticed the box has a torque converter
and hence make two changes from rest to top speed.
Article 19:
DA83 上了新巴色
Ken Fung (kenf@hkstar.com) from 202.68.58.226 at Thu Sep 24 13:07, 1998 said:
昨晚八時左右於旺角看到 DA83 上了新巴車身顏色, 感覺不錯,
新車一樣. :) 行走 112.
Ken
Article 20:
問題有二
Steven (joelam55@chevalier.net) from 202.77.28.113 at Thu Sep 24 11:01, 1998 said:
問題如下:
(1)KMB Group的架構如何?
(2)什麼叫做'牛'(我指述語)和'水牌'?
Thanks
問題少年
Steven
Article 21:
唉!城記E23...
GB2444,FX8032 (jackie01@hknet.com) from hhtam036243.netvigator.com at Thu Sep 24 10:23, 1998 said:
尋日o係黃埔等115返公司,見到有架城躉駛到(2204).
點知個司機唔知發o左乜o野神經,竟然'隊'架車入212條坑!!!
咁仲不特止,個司機仲'boot'前邊架就開o既212,好似想趕架車走.
佢又唔同o係E23個站等車o既人講過去上車(雖然o的人都知要上邊架車o者...),
架車個電子牌又虧o左,凈係識o係度轉,轉,轉...
不過212個司姐都不甘示弱,死都唔開走架車!
最後...咪又係要死死氣等架212開且至走得!!!
(個司機曾經意圖想倒車,但係個站太'大'啦,結果唔得)
尋日坐5Bo個陣,竟然有人問架車去唔去機場,
'R'晒頭o既Tony(GB2444,FX8032)
ICQ:8791015
Article 22:
棍波傳說..........
炎邪火月 (adagatha@netvigator.com) from hhtun002097.netvigator.com at Thu Sep 24 01:59, 1998 said:
傳說，曾幾何時，通街巴士都係棍波。
傳說，巴士公司發現用自動波方便，司機唔駛邊渣車邊轉波，
慳返唔少時間，紛紛放棄棍波，從此棍波消失在大地上的專利巴士內。
傳說，在專利巴士中，只有在荒島上的佢繼承衣缽，繼逐棍波走天涯。
傳說，在荒島的佢要追上潮流，買左三個熱辣辣的英國蛋撻試食。
大地上個個知情者議論紛紛，擔心呢三個蛋撻就如大地上的蛋撻一樣：
上斜無乜力，好睇唔好食！
點知呢三個蛋撻令大地上的人驚嘆，因為荒島上的佢在蛋撻上插左枝：
波棍！係三隻棍波蛋撻！大地上的人從未食過，甚至未見過呢種蛋撻！
唔！正！個個食過番尋味。原來棍波真係正好多！
可惜，棍波已失傳在大地之專利巴士內........
當今大地專利巴士上，又有幾多人仍識運用呢個---棍波傳說呢？
炎邪火月
Article 22: (Request 1)
「徐日城」新收o既手下應該冇乜邊個識.
「許新」由「顏老大」買番黎o既老臣子應該好多都識.
「陳九」元老分子或者技術人員都識, 新手未必會識.
Article 23:
彌敦道一問
疊茵庭 (c5013830@hkbu.edu.hk) from ppp254229.hkabc.net at Thu Sep 24 00:25, 1998 said:
話說三星期後的星期五早上十時(通常係)
彌敦道北行線要封閉十九個月, 今日見連路牌都豎起了, 請問有沒
有人知改道詳情, 搭中港巴士的地點會否改變(現於砵蘭街近荔枝角
道處), 近運動場道的巴士站又會搬到那裡?謝
疊茵庭
Article 24:
[WA] New Buses Built for Easier Rides
Dennis Law (ctb2500@upnaway.com) from dial003.upnaway.com at Wed Sep 23 23:17, 1998 said:
The following article is extracted from the West Australian published on 23.9.98:
New Buses Built for Easier Rides (By Bronwyn Peace)
Transport Minister Murray Criddle has unveiled a model of a new bus to be part of a $300 million plan to make transport more accessible for elderly and disabled people.
Mr. Criddle showed the model Mercedes-Benz low-floor bus at the opening of the international conference on transport for elderly and disabled people, Transed '98, at Burswood.
The first of the 848 new buses to be introduced in the next 12 years will begin service late this year. They will be fitted with security cameras and have reverse-cycle air-conditioning and contoured seats.
'The new buses will have low floors and automatic ramps for easy access by passengers in wheelchairs,' Mr. Criddle said. 'They will also have a kneeling facility, which beings the floor closer to ground level if required ?to improve wheelchair access.'
He said boarding would be convenient for people with prams or heavy loads or with broken limbs. Transperth will get 65 new buses a year from 2000 until it has 848.
Robert Jones, national access consultant and chairman of the Queensland Disability Advisory Council, said the buses were a huge step forward for West Australians.
'It is a very positive step and I would like to see that right across the country,' he said.
'By having access to buses you have spontaneity and if you have to ring a day before you want to travel you do not have spontaneity.'
But Opposition transport spokeswoman Alannah MacTiernan questioned the decision for a 12-year contract.
'We are very angry that Mr. Criddle has signed this for 12 years,' Ms. MacTiernan said. 'That is well in excess of what is required and we will not be able to keep on top with the best technology if we are locked in with the one manufacturer.'
It would prevent WA from taking advantage of the latest fuel technology developments, including gas fuel-injection systems.
A spokesman for Mr. Criddle said the Transport Department could change manufacturers.
'The contract which has been drawn up for Mercedes-Benz is what is known as an open-ended contract and it gives the Government the ability to choose other suppliers should a more suitable vehicle be provided at a cheaper price,' the spokesman said.
Southern Coast Transit managing director Peter McKenzie confirmed reports that 13 CAT buses had been taken off their routes because of damaged panels but said three CAT buses would service Burswood for the Transed convention, which ends tomorrow.
Article 25:
新巴紙扇及新巴路線手冊
傑仔 RLX1 (chowack@netvigator.com) from imsp037.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 22:09, 1998 said:
現本人尚餘少量新巴紙扇，欲取者請電郵給我；
還有大量新巴簡介的單張，歡迎各位索取。
另外，本人能替各位板友直接向新巴訂購即將
發行的 '新巴路線手冊'（啟行版），若有興趣，
請予電郵查詢。
傑仔 RLX1
Article 26:
A/C on route 15 (NWFB)
DC4 (abrao@netvigator.com) from imsp037.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 21:54, 1998 said:
When will NWFB route 15 : a) change to full air-conditioning
b) use Octopus card
Article 27:
(詢問)城巴2200模型!!
GW3430 (id00574@netvigator.com) from hhtak012148.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 21:34, 1998 said:
請問那裡還有得賣, 價錢如何?? (三和及80M已無貨)
謝謝!!
GW3430
ICQ:8749904
Article 28:
[網頁廣告]:「昔日中巴」更新
DA82 (da82@netvigator.com) from hkpu15.polyu.edu.hk at Wed Sep 23 19:48, 1998 said:
「昔日中巴」更新，內容分別是：
佈景大相投入服務，第一張大相是：ＭＬ５４；
主頁相片更新；
轉網站加入新網頁。
歡迎參觀!
另外，下星期三將會再加大相。
DA82,HB8095.
張大相整左我成兩個鐘呀．．． *_*
Article 29:
[SCMP Letter] 塞車皆因巴士多？
L.Verde (gw7112li@netvigator.com) from hhtck018071.netvigator.com at Wed Sep 23 18:58, 1998 said:
請睇今日南華早報投訴版：
Buses cause serious congestion
愈多巴士，條路愈塞，巴士愈少人搭，車越空...
巴士公司愈要搶生意，又再加車，結果...
浪費資源的惡性循環？
凱日‧豪原
p.s. 封信作者叫'Colin Bond'，相當耳熟！（巧合？）
Article 30:
HKBDB vs HKTDB
Citybus 10 (eg_slk@stu.ust.hk) from ustsu68-nc2.ust.hk at Thu Sep 24 15:59, 1998 said:
Recently I also joined in the HKTDB (Hong Kong Transport Discussion Board), but I find that the atmosphere of HKTDB is much worse than here. Each day only at most 2 articles are posted up in the HKTDB.
But HKBDB is different, all boardmates are eager to share their seeings & opinions.
So I encourage everyone interested in buses to join the HKBDB!
Citybus 10
Article 31:
S3V30
287K&85A (hangk@netvigator.com) from hhttnt01107.netvigator.com at Thu Sep 24 16:38, 1998 said:
S3V30 in 40x
Article 32:
有冇可能?
DY2528 (ngkamhung@hknet.com) from 202.67.255.31 at Thu Sep 24 18:06, 1998 said:
城巴以及其他返中國大陸的過境巴士公司(如永東,永安,粵港,新巴集團)可
否購買Trident來行過境線,當然途經的地方也能給雙層巴士行的才可行,
這樣是可以增加客量,如果唔鎖車的話,可能快過B12.請問各位是否可行
嗎?歡迎各位討論一下.
My ICQ number : 17253104
DY2528
