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Article 1:
A New Page
Welcome (lsming@ctimail.com) from 203.80.97.221 at Mon Mar 1 17:05, 1999 said:
A new page is now at service,
URL: http://members.xoom.com/Buses_Page
I need your valuable informations and photos, please E-mail to: s3m44@hotmail.com or the Email address at above!
討論：出版以巴士為題VCD的可能
巴士文 (daraman@netvigator.com) from 205.252.144.9 at Tue Mar 2 08:21, 1999 said:
話說我有位不大相熟的朋友，早排突然約我飲茶，想問我意見，
是有關製作以巴士為題的VCD，因他本身從事影視製作及出版業，
眼見以汽車為題的雜誌、書籍都有一定的銷路，又見陳先生出版
的香港巴士書系列取得一定的成功，令他深深感到，巴士迷的市場
絕有可為，最重要是尚未有先行者。聽講市面上現有售賣以汽車為
題的VCD，他們的公司亦曾參與，所以在錄影、剪輯、配樂、印製
VCD、封套、發行等實際後期功夫上絕不是問題，據知此等製作的
成本只是十零廿元(以三千隻碟攤分計)。
問題是他本身並非巴士迷，對巴士的知識只是一般普羅市民的水平，
相信分公司尚可以，分車型也僅知道低地台雙層巴叫猜等，冷氣車
有富豪等，若以外行人的知識，肯定做得不好。我不諱言他絕對是
一名生意人，覺得這樣會有錢賺，其實我己說了很多負面的意見，
但他卻有全盤計劃，姑且讓我在此公諸同好，順道聽聽大家意見：
方案一：
以季刊形式，每三、四個月出版一次，主要講該時期新舊巴士登記
與退役情況，並加特定專題，例如圈內大事，和固定專欄，如試車、
遊河線、訪問、機械知識等，由於牽涉版權問題，所以不能輯錄電視
播出的巴士新聞。這種形式近似某巴士迷組織出版的巴士雜誌。
方案二：
以每間巴士公司為題，每間出版一集，主要介紹該公司運作、車隊、
車型、車廠等題目，更可能會訪問該公司的職員，形式近似陳先生的
巴士書系列。
其他的問題：
以上每集約以六十分鐘為限，會有旁述和配樂，是否需要有主持人
出鏡？
香港的巴士迷數字雖然無法統計，但肯購物(此VCD)的有一千人嗎？
巴士迷會否接受這些VCD？除巴士迷外，普羅市民是否有興趣？
若零售價在七、八十元左右，是否合理？是否有市場？(一套電影也
只是數十元)約千隻碟已能翻本，二千隻肯定有大錢賺(都不算是秘
密了)。會否有翻版市場？
巴士公司是否支持，例如准許拍攝車隊、車廠、訪問等，由於們既非
圈內人，又欠缺熟人指引，巴士公司是否相信？
是否需要找位資深的巴士迷作編導工作(主要就內容提供意見)？
歡迎各位板友提出寶貴意見。
Article 2: (Request 1)
我都曾經想過出版vcd
照現時市場
六十至八十元一隻是有市場的
但可能未必受小朋友接受
留侍出dvd好過
巴 士 是 動 的
Article 2: (Request 2)
> 8287 (hkay@netvigator.com) said:
>
> 小弟從事出版業，亦曾經開會傾過出巴士vcd，問題係最現實的：無
> 乜利潤，書賣100有人買，vcd賣100可以嗎。到時又有埋翻版就更死
> 。
> 老土講：市道低迷，三思！
VCD's quality is not good,DVD screen quality is better
then VCD.But i suggest VCD and DVD can introduced at same
time
Article 2: (Request 3)
唔駛搵人出鏡, 只靠旁述已經可以. 因為只有旁述o既片比較客觀,
類似鏗×集, 新×透視咁. 或者可以邀請某些巴士迷做下訪問, 分享心得等.
不過呢個位實會俾人爭到頭崩額裂.
市場一定有. 年鑑賣到二百蚊都有人買. 區區七八十蚊o既 VCD 點會冇人買?
不如諗下會唔會有翻版仲好. (如果嚮書局賣, 應該冇.)
咁咪要搵個同巴士公司有關係o既巴士迷黎做統籌囉, 甚至請某些巴士迷會
高層亦可以.
睇下做 D 乜野題材啦. 新料的話 (如新車裝嵌, 舊車退役報導) 冇乜需要
資深巴士迷o既, 但做歷史資料 (車隊演變, 路線發展) 就可能要.
不過我覺得到頭來又係果幾個人玩晒, 甚至可能會係另一套陳先生著作,
只不過改左做其他媒體而已.
而家本本巴士書都係果班人做, 都幾悶下.
Article 2: (Request 4)
> Flying Chuk (chuk@netvigator.com) said:
>
> 未必要o既,因'V.C.D.'(一隻介紹汽車的VCD名)都冇人出鏡,效果
> 都不錯
>
>
> 如果七、八十元左右,我估只有巴士迷有興趣多些...
> 如果四、五十元左右就好些...
>
>
> 可以用公司名義申請,同巴士公司說拍一些介紹貴
> 公司之VCD.我估新巴和九巴一定肯合作.
>
> 以上只是我個人之愚見.
>
> 飛機竺
有得出就好囉... :D
[報章]城巴涉違規濫用資源
大腦電波 (leungweb@cyber-x.com.hk) from 208.167.228.52 at Tue Mar 2 04:55, 1999 said:
今日生果日報報導
城巴涉違規濫用資源 專利巴行非專利線 有意外乘客無保險
HKBDB 版友非議的城巴非專利巴士行專利線問題終於擺上主流傳媒
報導.城巴以後唔可以再偷雞再用非專利車行專利線.
此外,城巴近來勁買新車及玩車海戰術,引致專利車輛過剩.
城巴根本無需要用非專利車行專利線.
涉嫌「偷雞」的專利巴士，車頭及車尾均有白色標誌的營運證
（紅圈所示）。
非專利巴士最明顯的是車頭及車尾有一紅一綠的營運證
（紅圈所示）。
城巴專利巴士車隊過剩情況
Article 3: (Request 1)
有 白 色 標 誌 的 營 運 證（ 紅 圈 所 示 ） 。
車尾那個不是死火掣麼?
另外,當年城巴不夠車時,曾將一班非專利車改行962,這些車有沒有
領專利牌?又與濫用資源這題目有關嗎?
F-stephen
Article 3: (Request 2)
我反而有興趣知道運吉會有甚麼反應！
專利車行非專利線629，並非近期才見的現象，早於三數年前，
我已見有這種情況出現，運吉冇理由說不知有這情況出現，為何
一直沒採取任何行動加以禁止，是否沒事發生或沒有乘客投訴，
便當沒事，採取容許態度？
專利巴士公司的車隊數目是根據其營運所需，運吉是有監管嗎？
若盲目買車而不理會實際所需，運吉何以未有作出任何限制？
因車隊數目擴張，間接令道路塞車情況加劇，同時亦令本身公司
的財政情況、後勤支援構成壓力，是否理智？
因需要借用非專利車行專利線，是否需要先向運吉申報、辦手續？
因有過剩的車隊，是否影嚮運吉考慮准許城巴開新線/接手中巴線
的因素(好批線以助消化車隊過剩)？
一間上市專營的公共事業，其發言人竟說很可能是其專利線29R
車長行錯路導致引起誤會云云，誠信如何？
假設同類情況出現紅巴士身上，後果又會如何？
我反而更想知道運吉對城巴此舉會有甚麼相應措施、懲罰？
對運吉感到啼笑皆非的巴士文
Article 3: (Request 3)
大腦電波君：
用呢條連線去「生果」會唔會好少少呢；
唔駛將每幅圖都貼晒上板，慳時間又唔駛打咁多htnl code。
＊ 秘訣：多多利用「生果」網中的「選擇」行。
V3123
Article 3: (Request 4)
''有 城 巴 乘 客 指 出 ， 每 逢 假 日 海 洋 公 園 遊 客 增 多 時 ， 城 巴 都 會 調 動 專 利
巴 士 行 走 629 號 路 線 。
城 巴 發 言 人 接 受 查 詢 時 解 釋 ， 可 能 是 另 一 條 行 走 海 洋 公 園 至 中 環 碼 頭
的 29R 專 利 路 線 的 司 機 行 錯 路 。 但 無 編 號 巴 士 上 的 乘 客 都 向 記 者 表 示 ，
他 們 是 憑 連 同 海 洋 公 園 入 場 券 發 售 的 車 票 乘 巴 士 到 金 鐘 ， 沒 有 額 外 付
車 費 。 ''
(Quoted from the text)
What a stupid lie of Citybus!
29R?! Impossible! How come 29R will use 8xx?
See? Citybus is a such kind of company.....
(Which kind? You should all know!)
Article 3: (Request 5)
哈哈哈, 城巴快 D 開多幾條沙田第一城, 嘉湖山莊, 置樂花園o既專利線啦.
萬一用左專利車行非專利線, 都有番個擋箭牌丫嘛.
繼「開車要密過地鐵」之後又一驚世偉論!
Re: How can I go to 小壕灣 ???
Nicholas Louie (nichlas@netvigator.com) from 208.167.246.152 at Mon Mar 1 17:46, 1999 said:
> Citybus 5B (ronaldsamuel@ctimail.com) said:
> Where's 小壕灣? Which Part in Lantau?
> And which transport can go there? from anywhere(better bus)
> Thank you
小濠灣晌北大嶼山高速公路(入大嶼山方向)右邊的海邊
約在青馬橋後五至十五分鐘可見有一巴士廠在左
地鐵廠在右
（如在東涌則在入口後十分，機場十五分，青衣站搭地鐵則過隧道後
兩分）
如果要去，就晌東涌站搭36往該處
或搭東涌線在該處按緊急製（講笑）
Nicholas Louie
ICQ UIN:15306525
Article 4: (Request 1)
> Citybus 5B (ronaldsamuel@ctimail.com) said:
> Where's 小壕灣? Which Part in Lantau?
It is the place where AEL & Citybus depots are stood, on north part of Lantau, between Tsing Ma Toll Plaza & Tung Chung.
> And which transport can go there? from anywhere(better bus)
You cannot go to there without first going via Tung Chung. You have to go to Tung Chung first, then take NLB Rt 34 (Tung Chung - Shek Mun Kap), leave when you see AEL depot.
This bus route operates at frequency of 25-40 minutes.
Citybus 272
Article 4: (Request 2)
To Citybus 5B (Maybe 272 too....),
If you take NLB 34 as above, I don't think you will arrive
Siu Ho Wan except you walk even farer than walk from Tung
Chung.
As Nicholas Louie said, you should take NLB36 instead.
But please notice that the frequency of that route is
relatively..... low!
If you have money, you can go there by taxi.........
I think it won't take you more than $40 for single way.
One more, there's very difficult to find a taxi there,
be careful!
Good Luck!
Re: Where can I buy the bus model?
DA54 (da54@netteens.net) from 202.71.243.190 at Tue Mar 2 04:20, 1999 said:
> M69 (lsming@ctimail.com) said:
> Where can I buy the `water good'(I don't how to type it) us model? (Please give me the adress, Thanks!)
There's some 'water good' of UK buses sold at Wan Chai
(Tai Yuen Street), near Southron Playground and MTR A3 exit.
Maybe there's some HK buses model too.
Try!
Article 5: (Request 1)
> Ken Fung (kenf@hkstar.com) said:
>
> 你指 '水貨'? 我想巴士模型應該不會有水貨的...是嗎?
>
> Ken
Kam X have England water good buses model,some is cost
$68
Re: Sorry for 文章 23990-3
NV58 (tin.wong@kcl.ac.uk) from 137.73.180.142 at Tue Mar 2 06:58, 1999 said:
> Citybus 5B (ronaldsamuel@ctimail.com) said:
> As title (Sorry for attacking NV5X)
> But some boardmates 似乎 say some words (罵 戰), Hope that they won't.......again.
> NV 5X sorry, please don't argue with me, ok?
算啦, 我都冇戒意 :)
如閣下有興趣跟小弟談談巴士經, 歡迎ICQ小弟.
忙到抽筋的
NV58 (UIN:16817372)
Making London simple
Re: 嘩~~!!!LM行109呀~~!!! :~o
HZ 5519 (miketal@hkstar.com) from 202.82.249.245 at Tue Mar 2 08:53, 1999 said:
> 藍田站長 (jackie01@hknet.com) said:
> 今日去房署總整機(竟然同我講話下午收4:00喎...,真係 ~_~),
> 走o個見到LM5駛過佛光街.咁我即刻睇清楚o的行乜o野線啦,原來係行...
>
> 109呀...!!! :~o
>
> 因為我跟住要4:30後去愛民整機,所以我就去o左愛民間美心快餐睇車...
>
> 今日所見,行109o既LM有LM5,7,8,10,其他o既都係SF.
>
> 本人金(甘)句:唔坐雞,唔坐寶,唔'撻'水牌三代好 :P
> --
> 今晚幾乎俾'獨立日'o既Sales夾硬扯去'做大件事'o既藍田站長(GB2444,FX8032)
有乜出奇呀?行左幾日啦!
Article 7: (Request 1)
計埋尋日都係第三日喎!
而新巴 109 由禮拜五得一部 LM8 行, 變到尋日有成四部 LM 行, 咁唔出奇咩?
你又想做網上警察呀? 個板已經好亂播
飯煲裏的雞蛋主持
alex chen
I don't know if this fits at all........
Citybus 272 (ctb47a@hutchcity.com) from 202.40.139.35 at Mon Mar 1 17:22, 1999 said:
I want to know if the following route suggestion fits the 'Route Suggestion Board' of HKBDB. It is:
KMB 916R, a tour route for China residents to see best HK sights for one day without leaving the bus, so no visa to HK needed.
Shenzhen (Sha Tau Kok) - Shenzhen Shekou via HK
Shekou - Sheung Shui (no need to alight when the bus goes through the border) - Fanling - Tai Po Seaside Park - Tolo Highway - Shatin - Lion Rock Tunnel - Lung Cheung Road Viewing Place, where the whole Kowloon can be viewed - Mongkok - Tsim Sha Tsui - CHT - Causeway Bay - Wanchai - Central - WHC - Route 3 - Tuen Mun Highway - Tsing Chung Koon - Yuen Long Highway - Lok Ma Chau (again, no need to leave bus when passing through the border) - Shekou
Fare: Just RMB$87 for trip of at least 5 hours long, so they can view the best sights of HK
Buses used: Neoplan Centroliner with 4m high body, RHD
Thanks.
Citybus 272
Article 8: (Request 1)
Well...you already included the reason. (Visa)
I think it's acceptable.
Ken
中巴盈利勁升
8287 (hkay@netvigator.com) from 205.252.144.9 at Tue Mar 2 11:15, 1999 said:
在城記宣佈虧蝕二千四百萬及負債十二億的同時，中記亦公佈業績，
賺二億多元兼派中期息。
http://www.singtao.com/news/02/0302do10.html
在很多人批評中記沒有專注巴士業務之時，城記今次一項特殊虧蝕係
：物業投資殺定！！
KMB plans to cancel 87 - a Merit!!
Citybus 272 (ctb47a@hutchcity.com) from 202.40.139.35 at Tue Mar 2 11:13, 1999 said:
I can strongly believe that the cancellation of KMB 87 is a merit, in the following ways:
(1) The heavily losing route of KMB 87 is cancelled, thus saving resources.
(2) KMB uses 88K + 87A to replace 87, with frequency much higher than 87, thus drawing passengers going between Tai Wai & Chak On Estate from KCR+MTR+GMB to 88K+87A. This only increases the load of the 2 bus routes a bit, but increases their income.
But I think the following should also be done to make this rearrangement even better:
(1) Passengers should be allowed to use bus transfer service between 80K + 87B, and 80K should be lengthened to Wong Nai Tau, so not only Wo Che, Lek Yuen & Tai Wai residents, but also residents of Wong Nai Tau can enjoy frequent bus service from there to Chak On Estate. This also increases passenger amount of 80K further & helps KMB to cancel 83K.
(2) 81 & 72 should go via Tai Wai Road in both directions, so there are more passengers taking 81 & 72, and there are direct bus service from Tai Wai to Sham Shui Po. This again helps KMB to cancel 87.
Citybus 272
有關巴士大集會
N.W.F.B.VA14 (adwel272@hkstar.com) from 202.82.48.1 at Tue Mar 2 10:07, 1999 said:
請問今年巴士大集會在何時及何地舉行?謝謝
致板主, 更改電郵地址:
Chik Wing Him (whchik@netvigator.com) from 208.151.66.226 at Tue Mar 2 08:59, 1999 said:
致板主:
本人戚穎謙Chik Wing Him, ID: whchik, 現欲更改電郵地址,
由whchik@netvigator.com 改至whchik@hutchcity.com
煩請板主替本人作出修改, 謝謝.
Totally unreasonable
Citybus 272 (ctb47a@hutchcity.com) from 202.40.139.35 at Tue Mar 2 08:54, 1999 said:
Yesterday I saw there was a feeble BL running on 64K instead of Turbo M. I think this is totally unreasonable as BL would run on the road very slowly, while it is far too wasteful to use Turbo M on 53 which goes via no hilly roads & carries no passengers.
Please tell me more inappopriate buses allocation of KMB, but no flame war please.
Citybus 272
EG6915的引擎
GG8690 (94903735@alumni.cityu.edu.hk) from 144.214.5.217 at Tue Mar 2 01:33, 1999 said:
EG6915換 o左三波波箱係咪連引擎都換埋做LT10呢?
因為有次搭他行61X回屯門時只是坐滿，但上天馬苑斜十分乏力，大
半段都係用一波上，猶如gardner。
其實點解要換?係咪因為51要加Turbo M?
Election: Bus routes you hate most
Citybus 272 (ctb47a@hutchcity.com) from 202.40.139.35 at Tue Mar 2 13:29, 1999 said:
As the title, speak the bus route you hate most out.
I hate KMB 87 most as this route has very low frequency, full hotdog & slow speed as it has to go via Lion Rock Tunnel & Shek Kip Mei. I'd take 81 from Shatin to Sham Shui Po instead as this route is faster.
Citybus 272
India - Pakistan Express Bus
Citybus 272 (ctb47a@hutchcity.com) from 202.40.139.35 at Tue Mar 2 13:41, 1999 said:
Last week the 1st express bus service between India & Pakistan was started. The 1st departure started from India, and the president of India took the trip to have an interview with Pakistan's president.
The 1st departure used an old Leyland bus of at least 12m long (maybe front engined), but air-conditioned.
Citybus 272
To all Shatin District Board Memebers !!
Citybus 272 (ctb47a@hutchcity.com) from 202.40.139.35 at Tue Mar 2 13:59, 1999 said:
I have a few sayings to all Shatin District Board Members:
(1) Please let KMB to cancel 87 as this route is losing extremely heavily, at least HK$40000 per month. More importantly there are better substitutes for 87, like 88K/80K + 87A/B, 81 & 72 (go via Tai Wai. This just increases travelling time for 2-4 minutes), etc. So never keep KMB 87!
If you still KMB 87 must be retained, then all district board members must operate 87, using only 12m buses & at frequency of 3 minutes, but no routing change is allowed at all. You will know it is reasonable to cancel KMB 87.
(2) Please DO NOT oppose KMB to make 680 full AC as the air in Tate's Cairn tunnel is the worst in HK! Opposing KMB to make 680 full AC is equal to force 680 passengers inhaling tunnel exhausts. If you still think this is all right, then you must take a hotdog on 680, smoke 20 Camel non-filter ciagrette (the cigarette in HK with highest tar amount) when the bus is passing through Tate's Cairn Tunnel! You will feel it is extremely important to make 680 full AC!!
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