19970812





Today: 12th August,1997.



Today: 12th August,1997.


Today‘s Articles:18


Pages:29


Total Articles: (883-900)


Article 1:


香港巴士討論區 - Re: The Route improvement Scheme(Shatin)


Eric Lo at Mon Aug 11 22:44, 1997 said:


 


 


Pirro Cheung Wai Ho (y931204@netvigator.com) said:


 


> The following is some route need to improve in Shatin,Can you


 


> give me some your suggestion for me:


 


> 1)86K-----add 3AV/3AD


 


> 2)81K-----add little ADS/AA(SLF)


 


> 3)80X-----add 3AV/3AD


 


> 4)282-----add little AD/AA(SLF)


 


> 5)87B-----change all G to M


 


> 6)82K-----add AA


 


82K should be changed to a shuttle bus route between Mei


 


Lam and San Tin Wai via Tai Wai Station using AA(SLF),


 


fare $2.80


 


> 7)83K-----change DM to S3BL


 


> 8)85A-----add AD/AV


 


Should be extended to Hung Hom Ferry (Same as 85C)


 


> 9)85B-----add AD/AV


 


> 10)87-----change all G to DM


 


It should be extended as (Royal Ascot -- Tai Kok Tsui) and


 


use full AA/AM service, fare $5.10


 


 


 


I would have the following suggestions:


 


11) New Route N182 (Kwong Yuen -- Central Macau Ferry)


 


by KMB & Citybus to replace N89R. Also, service hours of


 


182 should be extended for introduction of N182.


 


 


 


12) New Long Win North Lantau Route E42 (Lee On --


 


Airport Ground Transportation Centre) via Ma On Shan


 


Town Centre, City One Shatin, Sha Kok, Yat Ming, Sun Chui, Tai Wan and follow E41 to New Airport. E41 should


 


then omit Sha Kok/Sun Chui and Tai Wai.


 


 


 


13) New Circular Route 299K (Sai Kung -- University KCR


 


Station) to replace 99 via Kam Ying Court/Lee On and


 


Chung On


 


 


 


Sha Tin Head


 


Eric Lo


 


Article 1: (Request 1)


I live in ST, so,I'll have many comment.


 


Besides, there are several large New residential area will be set up by


 


Bus-trip Site inspection & Sha Tin OZP,Ma On Shan OZP & Shap Sze Heung OZP


 


 


 


a/Siu Lek Yuen Rd near Kwong Yuen Est


 


b/former Yuen Chau Kok THA


 


c/Whitehead & Nai Chung


 


d/former Ha Shing Mun THA


 


e/Ma On Shan Rd opposite to Chevalier Garden


 


 


 


> > 1)86K-----add 3AV/3AD /No Comment


 


> > 2)81K-----add little ADS/AA(SLF) /No Comment


 


> > 3)80X-----add 3AV/3AD /No Comment


 


> > 4)282-----add little AD/AA(SLF) /No Comment


 


> > 5)87B-----change all G to M /No Comment


 


> > 6)82K-----add AA


 


> 82K should be changed to a shuttle bus route between Mei


 


> Lam and San Tin Wai via Tai Wai Station using AA(SLF),


 


> fare $2.80


 


Re:Reroute 82K,no via Tin Shum Street & Shortened to Mei Lam - Ravana Garden


 


 


 


Should be extended to Hung Hom Ferry (Same as 85C)


 


 


 


> It should be extended as (Royal Ascot -- Tai Kok Tsui) and


 


> use full AA/AM service, fare $5.10


 


Re:I believe that you say 87


 


Combined 87 & 280P,


 


Named 280 Shui Wo Court - Kowloon Airport Rail Station


 


via Mei Lam,Tai Wai,Shek Kip Mei,Mong Kok,Tsim Sha Tsui


 


>


 


> I would have the following suggestions:


 


> 11) New Route N182 (Kwong Yuen -- Central Macau Ferry)


 


> by KMB & Citybus to replace N89R. Also, service hours of


 


> 182 should be extended for introduction of N182.


 


Re: Very Agreed because I live in Kwong Yuen Est. the Best way of N182


 


need divert to Causeway Bay & Mong Kok &


 


Extended 182 Kwong Yuen - HK Macau Ferry


 


 


 


> 12) New Long Win North Lantau Route E42 (Lee On --


 


> Airport Ground Transportation Centre) via Ma On Shan


 


> Town Centre, City One Shatin, Sha Kok, Yat Ming, Sun Chui, Tai Wan and follow E41 to New Airport. E41 should


 


> then omit Sha Kok/Sun Chui and Tai Wai.


 


Re:No Comment


 


>


 


> 13) New Circular Route 299K (Sai Kung -- University KCR


 


> Station) to replace 99 via Kam Ying Court/Lee On and


 


> Chung On


 


Re:So agreed 299K but need delete 99 at the same time


 


>


 


> Sha Tin Head


 


> Eric Lo


 


 


 


Others:


 


83X change to Morning Special Route, Kwong Yuen -> Lam Tin MTR


 


then 89D changing(Full-day diverted to Kwong Yuen)


 


 


 


Combined 83P & 85A, Kwong Yuen - Kowloon City Ferry


 


(Using New SHK Private Housing Site for B/T)


 


 


 


Deleted 888


 


 


 


Combined 83S & 283


 


Named 283,Wong Nai Tau - Mei Chung Court


 


 


 


Combined 80K & 83K, Named 80K Wong Nai Tau - Sun Chui


 


 


 


Extended 89C, Whitehead - Kwun Tong


 


 


 


Extended 87X,Whitehead - Whampoa Garden (Full-day Service)


 


 


 


Extended 88M,Mei Chung Court - Kowloon Tong MTR


 


 


 


Reroute 86,diverted Tai Po Road, Shek Kip Mei


 


 


 


New Route 289K,Whitehead - Sun Chui


 


 


 


New Route 296X,Mei Chung Court - Hang Hau


 


via ST Central,Tate's Cairn Tunnel,Kwun Tong Bypass,KT Central,Po Lam Rd


 


 


 


281P to Full Day service,


 


281 Kwong Yuen - Kowloon KCR Station (Followed Holiday journey)


 


 


 


Cross Harbour Route


 


Diverted N680 to Kwun Tong & Diamond Hill & Extended to HK Macau Ferry - Nai Chung


 



 


Insisted on N170 Wah Fu - Royal Ascot diverted to Mong Kok


 



 


New Route 683 Whitehead - Siu Sai Wan


 


 


 


Extended 681,Whitehead - West Point (Diverted Causeway Bay)


 


 


 


Overnight Service


 


N299 Tai Wai Interchange - Sai Kung


 


 


 


N286 Mei Foo - Wong Nai Tau


 


via Tai Po Rd, Tai Wai Interchange


 


 


 


Extended N281 Kowloon KCR Station - Whitehead


 


 


 


N280 Kowloon Airport-Rail Station - Shui Wo Court


 


via Mong Kok,Prince Edward,Tai Wai Interchange


 


 


 


N270 Tai Wai Interchange - Sheung Shui


 


via Tai Po Rd,Wah Ming


 


Article 1: (Request 2)


1:!


2:78K改全線ADS/AA,3.80,班次8~12.


3:轉全線A/C Bus!


4:宜家已全AV/AD!


5:全線用S3BL,AD,AV!87B用到11!


6:全線用AM,14~20分一班!


7:取消循環線,AD!


8:延長至'廣源-九龍城碼頭',83P


9:延長至'博康-九龍城碼頭'


10:87延長至'駿景園-大角咀',AA/AM,17~25分一班.


 


Article 2:


香港巴士討論區 - The Routes of improvement Scheme


Alexander at Tue Aug 12 09:04, 1997 said:


The following is some rount need to improve.Can you give me some


 


your suggestion for me.


 


 


 


1)7B---use whole A/C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:13~25minutes will increase to 10-15minutes.


 


 


 


2)7M---use whole A/C bus.


 


 


 


3)8---use whole A/C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:10~20minutes will increase to 6-12minutes.


 


 


 


4)2D---use whole A/C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:15-30minutes will increase to 12-20minutes.


 


 


 


5)2C---use whole A/C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:15-25minutes will increase to 10-15minutes.


 


 


 


6)11X,13X---use whole A/C double-decker bus.


 


 


 


7)12---use whole A/C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:15-25minutes will increase to 10-15minutes.


 


 


 


8)12A---use whole A/C bus.


 


The frequency:12-20minutes will increase to 8-15minutes.


 


 


 


9)13M---add A/C bus.


 


 


 


10)14B---add A/C bus.


 


 


 


11)14C---use whole A/C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:18-35minutes will increase to 13-25minutes.


 


 


 


12)2F,15A---add A/C bus.


 


 


 


13)17---add little A/C singal-decker bus.


 


 


 


14)18---use whole A/C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:15-25minutes will increase to 12-20minutes.


 


 


 


15)23,26M---add A/C bus.


 


 


 


16)11K,21,23M---add A/C bus.


 


 


 


17)53---use whole A?C singal-decker bus.


 


The frequency:20-30minutes will increase to 12-20minutes.


 


 


 


18)54---use whole A/C bus.


 


The frequency:15-25minutes will increase to 10-15minutes


 


 


 


19)65K---use AM.


 


 


 


20)59M---will extended to TSing Yi MTR Station.


 


 


 


21)66M---will extended to Tsing Yi MTR Station.


 


 


 


22)68M---will extended to Tsing Yi MTR Station.


 


 


 


23)238M---will extended to Tsing Yi MTR Station.


 


Via:Wing Shun Street,Yeung Uk Road,TSing TSuen Road


 


 


 


24)38A---use whole A/C bus.


 


The frequency:15-24minutes will increase to 8-15minutes.


 


Via:Yeung Uk Road,TAi Ho Road,Castle Peak Road


 


 


 


25)73X---will extended to TSing Yi MTR station.


 


Via TSuen Wan.


 


 


 


26)49X---will not via TSuen Wan.


 


 


 


27)71A,71K---add A/C bus.


 


 


 


28)71B---use 2 A/C double-Decker bus.


 


 


 


29)72A,73,73A---use whole A/C bus.


 


The frequency:72A---20-35minutes will increase to 12-18minutes,


 


73---18-30minutes will increase to 12-18minutes,


 


73A---20-30minutes will increase to 10-15minutes


 


 


 


30)72---will extended to JOrdon Road FErry


 


 


 


31)270A---change to whole-day services


 


 


 


32)70---will cancel


 


 


 


33)94---will use whole A/C bus.


 


THe frequency:30-60minutes will increase to 15-30minutes.


 


 


 


34)91,92---will use M and ADS.


 


 


 


35)91M---use whole A/C bus.


 


 


 


36)93M---use whole A/C bus.


 


 


 


37)95,95M---add A/C bus.


 


 


 


38)99---will extended to Chung On,use whole A/C bus.


 


The frequency:45-120minutes will increase to 20-30minutes.


 


 


 


39)115---change to all-day services.


 


 


 


40)113---via Chung Hau Street,Chung Man Street


 


 


 


41)215X,271,234X,28---will extended to Kowloon MTR station.


 


 


 


42)52X---will extended to TSim Sha TSui East.


 


 


 


43)307---change to 607 and whole-day services.


 


 


 


44)160---Lai Kok-Stanley Town Centre


 


 


 


45)115R---Kowloon City FErry-The Peak(holidays services)


 


 


 


46)609R---Diamond Hill-Shek O(holidays services)


 


 


 


47)937---Kwai Shing(East) to CAuseway Bay,


 


Via:Kwai Fong,Lai King,Container Port Road,West Kowloon


 


Expressway,WHC,Central,Wan Chai


 


 


 


48)932---Shek Wai Kok to Causeway Bay,


 


Via:Lei Muk Shue,Shek Lei,Castle Peak Road,LAi Chi Kok Road,


 


Hing Wah Street,West Kowloon Expressway,WHC,Central,Wan Chai


 


 


 


That is the end of the routes of improvement scheme


 


 


 


Alexander,


 


The Governer of Island District


 


Article 2: (Request 1)


There is only one suggestion I would like to give you. Try hard,


 


and study more on the transport planning. Go to library and


 


find 'Decision making in Transport Planning, Paul Truelove',


 


you will get all answer.


 


Article 3:


香港巴士討論區 - Re: DA 83 lauched


C.K. Chow 傑仔 at Tue Aug 12 13:10, 1997 said:


Panda Ng (panda_ng@vol.net) said:


 


> Yesterday afternoon, riding on a LF of 38A. Just come out of the Aberdeen tunnel,


 


> I saw a DA83 using a T car plate, heading to Chai Wan (I guess).


 


> The windows are squres of course with individual seats but I couldn't clearly see them.


 


> There was no name plate showing whether it is a Dragon, Condor or Trident. Can anyone who can tell me?


 


>


 


> Panda Ng


 


 


 


DA83 Condor, 2+2 獨立座位 , 方角窗 .


 


 


 


C.K. Chow 傑仔


 


Article 4:


香港巴士討論區 - 送佢一程


鄧浦鈍 at Tue Aug 12 13:10, 1997 said:


北區區長走之後,又有o野要走喇!之唔係就係黃老太o,


 


 


 


今個月尾就走喇,仲有十幾日,好似係運去南非.不過白頭


 


 


 


(城記o個件)會唔會臨時轉呔就仲未知,話唔定留到年


 


 


 


尾都唔定,住南區個個都知o架喇!不過都係盡快到海廠影


 


 


 


多幾張相(記念o).不如到時送佢一程呀!


 


Article 5:


香港巴士討論區 - Re: 點解960唔行12


970 at Tue Aug 12 11:44, 1997 said:


511 (wckit@netvigator.com) said:


 


> 960咁好客,點解九巴唔落12(以小弟所見,連特車都係11)


 


 


 


By the policy of KMB, all the 12m buses are not allowed


 


to run at Tuen Mun Highway. It is because KMB think that if


 


there is an accident occuring at the Highway, the 12m buses cannot turn


 


to Castle Peak Road.


 


Article 6:


香港巴士討論區 - 超級無敵Neoplan


獎門人 at Tue Aug 12 03:37, 1997 said:


I'm sorry that,I've use English. Cos my Chinese program had


 


delete.Anyone can suggest a program for me? Thankx alot.


 


 


 


Anyway,KMB and CTB test the Neoplan yet? Where is the demonstrator


 


going? Return to Germany or still in HK?


 


 


 


Will NLB buy any double deck again? And their bus service will


 


get into urban area?


 


 


 


Super!


 


(sorry again,I type in English.)


 


Article 7:


香港巴士討論區 - Re: MB+MC爬山能力


Wan Chi Wai(3AV120) at Tue Aug 12 09:22, 1997 said:


 


 


Felix Tse (DA40) (condor863@hotmail.com) said:


 


> 有無人諗過,如果有架MB或者MC載滿哂人(樓上樓下企滿哂),


 


> 係紅棉道或者柴灣道斜路停定,再開車,會唔會死火?


 


>


 


> 仲有,點解LX 0甘好力?


 


MB and MC are using Grander 6LXB engine!with 185 bhp!


 


Article 8:


香港巴士討論區 - B12


congjiao at Tue Aug 12 01:05, 1997 said:



 


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a href = 'http://home.hkstar.com/~josephso/gz_bus/gz01.jpg 2


 


a href = 'http://home.hkstar.com/~josephso/gz_bus/gz02.jpg 3


 


Article 9:


香港巴士討論區 - 有關九巴車廠少少資料


Siu Man at Tue Aug 12 00:37, 1997 said:


以下是九巴四間車廠的少少資料:


 


 


 


 


 


九龍灣車廠


 


地址 : 九龍灣臨華街一號.


 


啟用年份 : 1990.


 


總面積 : 70,000 平方米.


 


服務區域 : 東九龍 (包括西貢), 負責維修, 保養超過 1200 部巴士.


 


加油站 : 21 .


 


維修車坑 : 72 , 其中 4 條供車輛檢驗及測試制動系統.


 


自動洗車機 : 8 .


 


 


 


 


 


荔枝角車廠


 


地址 : 荔枝角寶輪街一號.


 


啟用年份 : 1965.


 


總面積 : 30,000 多平方米.


 


服務區域 : 西九龍, 負責維修, 保養超過 900 部巴士.


 


加油站 : 12 .


 


維修車坑 : 38 , 其中 6 條供車輛檢驗及測試制動系統.


 


自動洗車機 : 5 .


 


 


 


 


 


沙田車廠


 


地址 : 沙田源順圍六至八號.


 


啟用年份 : 1988.


 


總面積 : 66,800 平方米.


 


服務區域 : 沙田及馬鞍山, 負責維修, 保養超過 600 部巴士.


 


加油站 : 12 .


 


維修車坑 : 63 , 其中 3 條供車輛檢驗及測試制動系統.


 


自動洗車機 : 4 .


 


 


 


 


 


屯門 81 車廠


 


地址 : 屯門建泰街一號.


 


啟用年份 : 1979.


 


總面積 : 14,000 多平方米.


 


服務區域 : 新界西及新界北, 負責維修, 保養超過 350 部巴士.


 


加油站 : 5 .


 


維修車坑 : 13 , 並設有車輛檢驗及測試制動系統區.


 


自動洗車機 : 2 .


 


 


 


資料來源:


 


九巴車隊日常維修保養全面邁進 ISO 9002 國際標準紀念特刊.


 


 


 


 


 


小文


 


Article 9: (Request 1)


當時(90)本人有幸參與九龍灣車廠的工程,


 


項目是弱電及廣播系統,其中一個特點是在車廠內的speak


 


是比沙田廠的多好多.因為之前沙田新廠內的巴士聲大個廣播聲,


 


往往聽不到有關的廣播,不知現在的情況有沒有改善呢?


 


聽說我的上司話,九龍灣廠與沙田廠是用同一的圖則.


 


另外在九龍灣車廠天台留有很多柱頭,可能是日後加高之用.


 


 


 


謝中


 


Article 10:


香港巴士討論區 - Re: 梗窗


336站長 at Tue Aug 12 00:33, 1997 said:


 


 


謝中 (dennist@hkstar.com) said:


 


> 近日發現九x有很多熱狗,下層車尾窗被貼上'梗窗'字樣,


 


> 是否要配合冷馬下層車尾沒有窗呢?


 


>


 


> 謝中


 


 


 


不是,是要方便洗車(因為每次洗車前去關尾窗很煩)


 


 


 


336站長


 


Article 11:


香港巴士討論區 - 今日所見(另加Urgent事一件)


GB2444 at Tue Aug 12 01:07, 1997 said:


講我今日所見前,請先看看 ahref=http://cyberfun.netrophy.com/freespeech/wwwboard/messages/1758.html此文(SorryKen Fung,請多多原諒!)


 


 


 


今日所見:


 


 


 


AS138


 


 


 


不知所措+無心打文的


 


觀塘(藍田分區)區長,


 


16+15號線代表,


 


老虎頭(S3BL421-470)代表,


 


Tony(GB2444)


 


 


 


(請各位a href=mailto:gb2444@hotmail.com E-Mail俾小弟講講有何方法去做)


 


Thank You Very Much!!!


 


Article 12:


香港巴士討論區 - 城記慶回歸車仔在第一城有售


丁蟹 Simon Lee at Mon Aug 11 22:14, 1997 said:


小弟今日去沙田第一城城巴過境巴士線售票處,


 


見到城記的慶回歸車仔在此有售,


 


而且更有一部模型回歸車仔展放在counter,


 


住在沙田的版友可以到沙田第一城過境巴士線售票處購買該模型車仔.


 


每部售250


 


 


 


城巴過境巴士線發言人


 


62R,88R路線代表


 


西隧905線代表


 


丁蟹 Simon Lee


 


Article 13:


香港巴士討論區 - BL1&BL2


Dennis Zhon at Mon Aug 11 22:02, 1997 said:


BL1首次登記年份:1981724


 


底盤號碼:ON/3


 


上次登記年份:1996-9-30


 


登記到期:1997-9-30


 


 


 


BL2首次登記年份:1981-7-24


 


底盤號碼:B45/O9


 


上次登記年份:1996-9-30


 


登記到期:1997-9-30


 


 


 


FU2776(ADS28)代表


 


西貢區長


 


Dennis Zhon


 


Article 14:


香港巴士討論區 - Re: 梗窗


Gakei! at Tue Aug 12 00:29, 1997 said:


謝中 (dennist@hkstar.com) said:


 


> 近日發現九x有很多熱狗,下層車尾窗被貼上'梗窗'字樣,


 


> 是否要配合冷馬下層車尾沒有窗呢?


 


 


 


為免洗車唔記得閂那個窗弄濕車廂.


 


 


 


(ps: 你又無辜辜整左兩篇文o, 係你有事定係個板有事呀?)


 


 


 


--


 


Gakei!


 


Article 14: (Request 1)


Sorry!我按'貼文'後在沒有按'Back'的情況下便按'Reload'出了兩文.


 


 


 


對唔住!對唔住!對唔住!


 


 


 


謝中 (:-<)


 


Article 14: (Request 2)


乜原來咁會貼兩篇架? , 真係唔知喎. fO_o?


 


( faq 要講清楚o的喇)


 


Article 15:


香港巴士討論區 - 拆左?


Michel Lau at Tue Aug 12 13:26, 1997 said:


剛才見到係北角電話公司機房出面(港運城對面)個城巴


 


車站上蓋拆左,隔離好似掘緊路。有冇人知道個站係因為


 


俾人插得多而拆左,定係因為道路公程而拆站呢?


 


 


 


Michel


 


(3AV165)


 


Article 16:


香港巴士討論區 - 論盡new930


44 at Tue Aug 12 13:57, 1997 said:


各位板友,請您們論盡小弟以下事:


 


1)為人


 


1a)若差,有什麼改善地方?


 


1b)若好,有什麼好的地方?


 


 


 


2)為什麼很多板友對我有偏見?(不能提HKBDB開之前的不對地方)


 


 


 


3)對人


 


有什麼要改善?


 


 


 


4)如何令其他板友支持我呢?


 


 


 


5)其他有何不對,請說?


 


 


 


 


 


答問題,唔駛驚,我絕不會怪罪於您們!


 


我會勇於認錯!但不會死不改過!


 


 


 


44


 


Article 17:


香港巴士討論區 - 問題


丁蟹 Simon Lee at Tue Aug 12 15:37, 1997 said:


1. 為甚麼日本非常少製造雙層巴士?


 


2. 利蘭和富豪奧林比安型巴士中軸可以轉向,有甚麼好處?


 


3. 吉拿LG1200引擎配在巨龍好,還是利蘭好?


 


4. Dennis DragonDuple車身好,還是Alexander?


 


THANK YOU VERY MUCH


 


 


 


城巴過境巴士線發言人


 


62R,88R路線代表


 


西隧905線代表


 


丁蟹 Simon Lee


 


Article 18:


香港巴士討論區 - 九鐵222巴士模型


Colin Chang at Tue Aug 12 15:46, 1997 said:


今日收到巴士迷會會訊, 內容有關九鐵奧林匹克模型:


 


 


 


車模: 同九巴(但只有七個窗位, 11)


 


 


 


編號: 222(EV4633)


 


 


 


路線: K11, 沙田第一城


 


 


 


車身顏色: 綠色(新款車隊顏色), 另有「九廣巴士10週年1987-1997


 


字樣(遲些九鐵會於巴士上貼上這款標誌)


 


 


 


數量: 6,500


 


 


 


售價: $180(每位會員限買6)


 


 


 


上次有非巴士迷會會員的板友叫我代他買, 如果要買的話, 可以叫


 


板內巴士迷會會員組織, 看看有多少限額剩. (我只會買一部)