19980314




Articles on 14th March, 1998.

Today's Articles: 39.


Articles' Numbers: (19980314_01-39)





Article 1:

Re: 太古城巴士真係死路一條﹗


John--2100 (jmtng@hknet.com) at Fri Mar 13 21:51, 1998 said:


> 叻霸佳 (letchan@netvigator.com) said:


> 我早半個月前送完我的女性好朋友回太古城的屋企後,想話搭巴士返


> 西環,但係我一想再想,原來太古城真係冇快線出中環等地。其實有


> 即係冇,因為21太慢太疏,而721又太疏和當時收了車。結果我走0左


> 10分鐘去「古之島」巴士站坐2A轉5B回家。


> 太古城巴士真係冇得救﹗比著我係普通太古城居民,我都會坐地龍﹗


>


咁如果18和21合併,咁咪方便到你羅:p


(其實是好提議,一定要同聯巴,公巴,New World--Stagecoach講下)





己經和女性好朋友分手,祝叻霸佳 成功的


John--2100


Article 1: (Request 1)

Usually I'll walk to Sai Wan Ho to take 720


that is usually faster than the MTR, But if 720


had closed I'll take MTR but NEVER 21!


Article 2:

最好的路線顯示牌及跑巴44A的特別消息


AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) at Sat Mar 14 05:34, 1998 said:


各款不同的路線顯示牌,可謂層出不窮,九巴當年曾用一款小型的數


字電子顯示牌,最終失敗,現在最新的電子顯示牌出現於城巴、九巴


和九廣輕鐵上,我個人應為九廣輕鐵﹝即COMENG第二代車廂那款﹞的


那款頭牌的編排和設計最好看和最美觀,如能拉長更加好。





TRAINING


司機訓練






未知各位板友最喜歡哪類路線地點牌呢?敬請各位發表,特別是板友


辛格「輕鐵代表」兄。





另外,跑巴44A之新墟總站已由屯門鄉事會路的嘉喜酒樓外遷往河


旁街屯門球場旁,即九巴屯門80廠對面





P S:我喜歡的是那款電子牌,不是九廣輕鐵





AV129


Article 3:

中巴消息


Felix Tse (b1wkca22@pop1.sympatico.ca) at Sat Mar 14 07:03, 1998 said:


今日日月報


今日水果報





裏面提到﹕





「 香 港 中 華 汽 車 公 司 職 工 會 理 事 長 鍾 松 輝 表 示 ,


大 部 分 員 工 都 希 望 中 巴 能 中 標 , 因 員 工 的 福 利


和 聘 用 條 件 都 會 獲 得 保 障 。」





乜果時唔係話贊成中巴被政府cut專營咩??





睇埋個表,城巴的「香港聯合巴士」總資產最多。


Article 3: (Request 1)

I also find two more articles in Appledaily Finance Section.


Quite interesting, and good advice on investments too.





Appledaily Finance 0314





y k, a graduate of Tsuen Wan St. Francis Xavier's School,


very disappointed at Education Bureau's decision.


Article 3: (Request 2)

... 英 國 必 達 巴 士 公 司 在 港


之 分 公 司 其 一 名 姓 劉 之 執 行 董 事 日 前 對


本 報 記 者 表 示 ﹐ 必 達 英 國 總 公 司 經 已 派 員


來 港 與 中 巴 商 討 ...





Is this Mr. Lau the same as the Mr. Lau from Speedybus?








y k, a graduate of Tsuen Wan St. Francis Xavier's School,


very disappointed at Education Bureau's decision.


Article 4:

Re: 城巴突變陣......


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) at Sat Mar 14 12:15, 1998 said:


William Fung (hk711997@netvigator.com) said:


>


> 城巴徐老兄好鬼聰明,明知如果單單由城巴出去競投就一定衰硬


> ,於是便與半國企''中旅'',大把錢的李''超人''同自己友''北海''


> 聯手攪家''港巴''出來,仲高姿態的強調會獨立運作,如此強勁組


> 合,看來中信冠忠今次有危險咯......





呢個所謂獨立運作, 唔知跟九記同龍運o既關係有冇相似之處呢?


到時港記唔夠車 (投到的話) 城記會唔會坐視不理呢?





> 港巴在資金方面肯定無問題(李超人多多都有),而在車隊管理及


> 營運方面,城巴及中旅擁有的經驗肯定比規模較少的冠忠多,港


> 巴的弱點只有一個:城巴現已經營港島一半路線......今次就真


> 係五五波咯,手心又係肉、手背又係肉......





車, D 錢左手交俾右手之嘛, 真係投到的話咪全港島都係城記囉!


再頂癮反而係會唔會港記同城記聯合經營隧道線 (甚至新市鎮線) 呢?


好一招肥水不流別人田呀!


Article 4: (Request 1)

> eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


> 呢個所謂獨立運作, 唔知跟九記同龍運o既關係有冇相似之處呢?


直頭一模一樣啦~!





> 到時港記唔夠車 (投到的話) 城記會唔會坐視不理呢?


答案係:唔會(昨日記者會話明港巴唔夠車城巴一定會幫手~!)





> 好一招肥水不流別人田呀!


仲高招過九記同龍運啦~!





William Fung


ICQ:4044831


Article 4: (Request 2)

唔可以話一模一樣, 因為龍運係九巴全資 (100%) 擁有,


呢間什麼聯合巴士並非由單一公司全資擁有.





--


車匙!


Article 5:

Re: 9/1後的9線:


Herman (hhmwan@acs.ucalgary.ca) at Sat Mar 14 09:24, 1998 said:


> 小丸子VA51 TONG HN8481 (k5959585@hkschool.net) said:


> 如果中記9線被冠記接手,會否用[學生服務]的


> 日本五十鈴爬上爬落石澳呢?


>


> 小弟亦贊成9線繼續用雞車爬石澳,因為在呢d森


> 林之road空氣又好,不需用冷馬行走!


>


> 大家點睇呢?


>





I certainly do not wish that 'Student Service' Isuzus will


be used for rt.9, but of course, that's not a possibility!


If Kwun Chung really takes over, it's a possibility that we


will perhaps see A/C Isuzus (like the NLB ones) serving on


rt.9. However, I tend to agree that the Chicken can still


be used for rt.9 and 14, because the air quality indeed is


really good out in Shek O and on the way to Stanley. However,


because the Chickens are getting quite old (>18 yrs?), so


whoever will be the new operator will not want to use them. A


more sensible bus (if you're talking about non-A/C) would be


a high-powered 9.7m 2-axle bus, like the Cummins-powered


KMB Metrobus... too bad MCW does not exist anymore!


Hmmm... maybe the new Trident 2 fitted with Cummins M11? :P





Herman


Article 5: (Request 1)

雞太嘈,No Way!最好就用老虎頭爬石澳,惊佢行唔到石澳道?


人地伍師姐都[手查]左架LM10入石澳啦!:)





Ivy--AV89


Article 5: (Request 2)

哈哈!用冷馬係遲早既事!








(P.S.但願2028年地球爆炸前會用冷馬)


Article 5: (Request 3)

> AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) said:


> 你認為空氣調節的唯一作用是避開污濁的空氣嗎?





冷馬行石澳仲有另一作用:冷病Do岩o岩游完水o既泳客.:)





Ivy--AV89


Article 6:

Re: 你認為新巴士公司要對社會負責任?


Colin Chang (kalim@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 10:09, 1998 said:


> 東區郡主 (kyy690@netvigator.com) said:


> 我今日由康怡乘坐81雞車返北角,在車上有很多老人家,他們無論上落


> 雞車都很辛苦,因為雞上車位同地下的距離有3尺,一時D司機在乘客


> 未付車資時即刻開快車,我仲後生識用平衡力,但年紀大的乘客,人體


> 的自覺性開始衰退.


>


> 中記已判

死刑

, 大家唔好企望有乜野改善服務.





我琴日去完石塘咀自修室,想行番上第三街坐4號,點知來架47A,


我咪去追囉。個司機好好人呀,特登等我喎,但係等到我追到上車


頭時即刻關閘走人,嘩!玩我o者!





唔通咁又判城巴死刑?我又唔會喎。





> 我們應該轉移視線,對新巴士公司發表任何意見.





我希望o既始終係一樣:唔好出現壟斷。中巴投唔到大家預o左,但係


如果俾現有專利公司投番,「改善服務」o既動力一定大減。





> 我意見係:希望居住好多老人的屋村的巴士線


>


> 如:

8,81,82,84

等路線加設單層低地台巴士.





8, 82同84行單層?你想o的人上唔到車咩?


Article 6: (Request 1)

好似60M,1A咁做咪得囉!





Ivy


AV89--GL1183


Article 6: (Request 2)

> 東區郡主 (kyy690@netvigator.com) said:


> 我今日由康怡乘坐81雞車返北角,在車上有很多老人家,他們無論上落


> 雞車都很辛苦,因為雞上車位同地下的距離有3尺,一時D司機在乘客


> 未付車資時即刻開快車,我仲後生識用平衡力,但年紀大的乘客,人體


> 的自覺性開始衰退.





所以話呢,用寶好過用雞鴨,起碼寶是SLF嘛!^_^


其實寶除了車齡高,用半自動波之外,不知好過雞車幾多!





Ivy


AV89--GL1183


Article 6: (Request 3)

為甚麼一定要

單層

,不能派

雙層低地台巴士

呢?





AV129


Article 7:

Re: 黃竹坑廠


SH Lee (leesh@hkabc.net) at Fri Mar 13 23:51, 1998 said:


> Gakei! (95261675d@polyu.edu.hk) said:


> 頭先亞記財經引述太古薩秉達:「...我們暫緩中巴黃竹坑廠發展計劃...」


>


> 乜黃竹坑廠有諗過「發展」咩?


好似不嬲都係講黃廠隔離塊泊車用地


Article 7: (Request 1)

你講出面還是裏面呀? 出面塊地已經打了樁, 不記得是金門還是


Vibro打的!





綠川光


Article 7: (Request 2)

> SH Lee (leesh@hkabc.net) said:


> 好似不嬲都係講黃廠隔離塊泊車用地





有架紅蕃頭, 響河邊o個度呀? (架車唔知擺度做乜)





--


車匙!


Article 7: (Request 3)

係呀. 中巴都冇考ISO, 放乜放幾耐都冇人理


Article 8:

Re: 誓保9月後rt.690熱狗?


Wayne (n170@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 00:57, 1998 said:


> ^,^東區郡主^.^ (kyy690@netvigator.com) said:


> 我想西貢區議會會唔會,苦求地要求九記保留熱狗,


> 因為(我想)該會用以現時經濟環境為理由,


> 希望九記KEEP住九月後690的熱狗服務.


>


> 超越今日平凡,開展明日燦爛


> VA-54~~~~~~東區郡主





好難嘮! 除非CITYBUS 肯落 坡柴 啦!


你知九記一向派車手法係唔願衰比對家咖嘛, 特別成記添!


(170, 182 有眼比你睇啦!)


Article 8: (Request 1)

> eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


>


> 而家九記仲用熱狗行 690 都係睇班客面色咋! 你估佢地唔想轉全冷咩?


>


> 係呢, 你點誓保呢? 訓行車路? 絕食? 遊行?





我會杯葛搭冷馬,30x我誓死等熱狗,等左90mins.....


Article 8: (Request 2)

不過就係留響屋企等嘛 :)





--


車匙!


Article 9:

Re: 12米重臨36A


GR3915 (95000552@s.ied.edu.hk) at Fri Mar 13 23:59, 1998 said:





> Dr.Route (ss78k@netteens.net) said:


> 聽我的兩位好友說,今日有3-4架3N行36A(包括3N1)。


>


> 唔知九巴是否想重建36A江山。


>


> (P.S.咁九巴應加資源落36B!)


>


You know, Lei Muk Shui Estate is having re-construction programme now, so its population was decreasing.





However, KMB have not enough 2-axle bus (its length is lower than 10m) to operate both loss route and for limited road condition.





More and more BLs', Ms' and Ns' moved to another 'limited' routes such as 53, 54, 70, 77K, etc., so that some 11m and 12m buses operate in such loss route. For example, 36A, 74K, 76K, etc..





I hope I could answer your question. :)





*GR3915


Article 9: (Request 1)

36A都好少人坐啦,如果想佢多D人坐,延至石圍角啦,美乎都有好多人


在石圍角返學O架!


有以下建議:


32:延至佐碼,改三軸


36A:改為石圍角<->九龍站,經尖碼


36A,32改三軸,加冷馬,聯合6-15分一班


36B:改為繁特線





Ivy--AV89


Article 9: (Request 2)

There was also some 3BL in 36A but with a few passengers


only in the morning.





Boby


AS1---FU 482


Article 10:

Re: Maybe....probably not!


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Fri Mar 13 21:38, 1998 said:


> Spice Boy---3AD10 (tsesh@hkstar.com) said:


> I heard a news in 903, the reporter said 'Nga Ko'(I don't know the name in English) joined the 88 routes.


> And said ('nga ko') they will use CMB's non a/c !!!


>


> Maybe DL,ML no need to die!!


>


> A question,


> Will CMB join these 88 routes??


>


> Spice Boy---3AD10


> Probably the youngest people in HKBDB!





Hey, didn't you buy one of those bus books about 'Argos' bus company?





Anyway, I heard rumours about one member of the Ngan's family, probably Ngan Kit Keung, may lead a 'brand new' company to bid for the 88 routes.


Though do you think the government is stupid?





So, I don't know, I sure hope Argos won't (and probably will not likely) to win the bid, as I'll not get any A/C bus for 914 in the near future.





100 Wong


Article 10: (Request 1)

> Thomas Kwong (twlkwong@netvigator.com) said:


> Yes, I saw in the news that CMB will re-apply for the 88 routes!





Or else maybe the government is just joking around with CMB, though the public will likely to be unhappy about this.


>


> But AL1 and AL2 will most likely be scrapped. =(





I think they've done their share of work in the past (?) years. I think they should be retired, however, please don't kill (scrap) them! Just save them to appear in Bus Rally. (though after what happened recently, I'm not sure if bus companies will preserve anymore buses for bus fans, afterall, they might be the one who kills them!)





100 Wong


Article 10: (Request 2)

Yes, I agree with you totally. If you look at an old book, like Mike Davis's books and look at some old photos, you will see AL1 and AL2 for example, in a very good condition in those days bus fans respected buses. But as a contrast, now look at AL1, its Volvo logo has been stolen, its engine was tampered with several times by someone; and AL2, I don't know whats wrong with it now, maybe someone has stolen another engine part again. What is the point of doing all this, theses buses have served HK loyally for a long time, why not just let them die off naturally, why do some bus fans have to kill them. Go to Chai Wan and look at AL1, and just think, why? Why is AL1 just sitting there like a piece of junk metal? It is because some bus fans have to do these horrible things to buses! And the same for DL1, its front grille has also been tampered with............


Article 11:

261


DA74(780) (c3035083@hkstar.com) at Fri Mar 13 17:55, 1998 said:


Did CMB have a route called 261?If yes ,can you post some information?


about it!


Can anyone tell me the history of CMB Rt66,64,262?


Article 11: (Request 1)

> R Lai (raymansc@asiaonline.net) said:


> the same as 262, 但經司徒拔道





261及262曾提供星期一至六全日(工半)o既「聯合班次」,


以MC及DC混合行走。印象中262的冷氣班次好像比261為多。


Article 11: (Request 2)

印象中下晝四點鐘左右,有班 261 特別車由中環開去淺水灣,係 DC


o黎o既。





19:34 o係德輔道中西行過禧利街麥記外見到顏大小姐架富豪私家車


o既 417


Article 11: (Request 3)

原本262是行司傱拔道的,後來改行隧道,就開261行262原有路線.


261的字軌是MC和DC.收$5(MC巴士價)





以前我由玫瑰崗放學是坐261返家(有時坐15(SD)和6(XF));當時261


的班次很準,一定係3:15-3:20到司徒拔道巴士站,所以我很鍾意坐


中巴MC.





1993年取銷261,開66(馬坑<-->中環),用雞寶,唉.......





曾是中巴擁躉的


John--2100


Article 12:

Re: 浪費了八達通機!


Kevin Wong (wphg19@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 01:18, 1998 said:


> S3BL (tin@school.net.hk) said:


> 沙廠有好多2+2AV 都裝了八達通機,但這些AV都只是行一些非過海路


> 線,(170,182字軌除外)。


> 這些八達通機又成日笠著黑膠袋,多麼浪費!


> 點解九記狂裝八達通機又唔用呢?請賜教!謝謝!


>


> 例:


> AV229[85掛牌],AV335,AV33?(HM 2833)[89掛牌],AV342[87B掛牌]……





好似85同87Bo的掛牌冷馬早/晚會做一轉680, 所以咪有八仔機囉.








Kevin Wong


Article 12: (Request 1)

> Spice Boy---3AD10 (tsesh@hkstar.com) said:


>


> Maybe these route will add Outopus!


>


> Spice Boy---3AD10


> Probably the youngest people in HKBDB





我想除方便日常調動外,還為日後全面使用鋪路.


Article 13:

Re: 巴士模型越炒越貴!


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) at Fri Mar 13 23:53, 1998 said:


JACKY,3AD1 (williamc@tsl.net.hk) said:


>


> 各位板友,你們有否發現近年的巴士模型(如Corgi,EFE)被炒得


> 越來越貴,令一些人難以負擔?





貴到離晒譜啦, 若果唔靠關係根本買唔到平車. (原價車都未必買到)





> 如97年出的3AV112,最初是$238,不久即加至$262,$298.越貴就


> 越多人買.至今巳升至逾$600.這現像是否是一件好事呢?用$238


> 買的現在便發達?





咁有好多人都買黎收藏o既, 就算知自己部車升左價都唔會賣出去啦!


賣出去買唔番咁價錢嘛, 除非爭人周身債, 迫住要賣車o者....:p





> 但這是售巴士的最佳方法嗎?對我們來說一輛模型巴士是否要


> 升值才有價值?





若果自己擺明做炒家梗係想個市越升越高, 自己賺得越多. 不過咁炒法冇意思,


有大把野仲搵得錢多, 駛乜炒巴士模型?


買黎收藏o既, 真係要等架車一出就即刻買, 或者向外國訂, 或者透過巴士迷會


提供o既折扣之下買, 否則監生俾人屈多一百幾十確實無謂.


Article 13: (Request 1)

一日唔賣左佢, 呢o的升值都係 unrealized gain (未實現) 來o既o者.





--


很「發達」的


車匙!


Article 13: (Request 2)

都係多得一d利用巴士搵快錢的巴士迷law....


Article 14:

Re: [Eng article]十個為什麼, 夠你唸足十萬年!


Dennis Law (ctb2500@upnaway.com) at Sat Mar 14 13:16, 1998 said:


> FatfishZ (fatfishz@netvigator.com) said:


> 1. In Queens Road East, there are 4 routes to Kennedy Town, 5,5A,10,113


> but no route to Chai Wan, Shau Kei Wan or even Tai Koo Shing. How come bus


> companies can be so sure that those Queen's Road East residents never go to


> Eastern District? Also how come the bus companies provide so many bus routes to


> Western District?





Bus companies have make sure that those passengers can change for another bus somewhere else.





> 2. 23B uses Cotton Tree Drive to Park Road while 12M takes care Central


> passengers. However, even 12 will take care the Central passengers, 23A


> don't use Cotton Tree Drive to Robinson Road!





Such is competition, I suppose!





> 3. I travel from Wah Fu to Wan Chai, why I need to pass through Robinson


> Road? (Route 40)





Why don't you take route 42 to Morrison Hill Road and change for a tram or another bus?





> 4. I travel from Wan Chai to Siu Sai Wan, why I need to follow the tram


> rail all the way? (Route 8)





Why don't you take 8X, 80, 780 or 788 instead?





> 5. In Siu Sai Wan, there is already 788, why 780 still departs from there,


> take some 788 passengers away and make those who live in Chai Wan West to stand?





Why don't CMB introduce an all day service on route 788 and relocate the terminus of 780 instead?





> 6. How come 38, 41A and 42 pass through Aberdeen but all of them


> terminate at North Point? Ap Lei Chau has just one route, 99, to


> Eastern District but it terminates at Shau Kei Wan?





Again, how come you can't change for another bus at King's Road?





> 7. How come Aberdeen has two routes, 41A & 76, passing through Nam Fung


> Road but Ap Lei Chau has none?





Are there enough passengers using a new bus route at Nam Fung Road?





> 8. How come there is a racecourse route 807 to Aberdeen and Wah Fu but no such kind


> of route for Ap Lei Chau? Is that means Wah Fu resident are more 爛賭?





How come you cannot transfer to another bus in Wong Chuk Hang after taking a 807?





> 9. How come there is school route 81A from Hing Wah Estate to Breamer Hill but


> not such kind of routes for Yiu Tung Estate and Siu Sai Wan?





How come you don't walk (or take 2M) down to Shau Kei Wan to take the 81A?





> 10. How come route 5 passes Happy Valley in west bound direction but don't passes through


> in east bound direction? 'I just got out form my home in Happy valley to Queen's Road East


> by route 5 on a beautiful Sunday morning. But now I find out that there is no way for me


> to go back home!'





How come you don't take a 5A instead?





> 11. Finally question, do you know why I post this thread?





Are they complaints from passengers?


(P.S. Are you studying in an English secondary school?)


Article 14: (Request 1)

> FatfishZ (fatfishz@netvigator.com) said:


> 1. In Queens Road East, there are 4 routes to Kennedy Town, 5,5A,10,113


> but no route to Chai Wan, Shau Kei Wan or even Tai Koo Shing. How come bus


> companies can be so sure that those Queen's Road East residents never go to


> Eastern District? Also how come the bus companies provide so many bus routes to


> Western District?





Bus companies may want you to 'transfer' to another bus so they can rip you off!


So, bus companies might recommend you to take 10 to North Point, then transfer to 85 for the rest of your destinations!


This case is at least better than my case of 'forcing' to take 103 to Waterloo Road on Hennessy Road, (near opposite of 188) as I had NO choice but 103!


>


> 2. 23B uses Cotton Tree Drive to Park Road while 12M takes care Central


> passengers. However, even 12 will take care the Central passengers, 23A


> don't use Cotton Tree Drive to Robinson Road!





Agreed!





> 3. I travel from Wah Fu to Wan Chai, why I need to pass through Robinson


> Road? (Route 40)





So you want a route using Aberdeen Tunnel? Agreed!


>


> 4. I travel from Wan Chai to Siu Sai Wan, why I need to follow the tram


> rail all the way? (Route 8)


>


That's why someone else is offering you the so called '8X' if you don't like '8' being so slow! I think its purpose is so passengers along the tram line can get to Chai Wan. (sort of what you wanted in 1 above!)





> 5. In Siu Sai Wan, there is already 788, why 780 still departs from there,


> take some 788 passengers away and make those who live in Chai Wan West to stand?





I supposed 780's terminus should be located in 'west' Chai Wan, if space is available.


>


> 6. How come 38, 41A and 42 pass through Aberdeen but all of them


> terminate at North Point? Ap Lei Chau has just one route, 99, to


> Eastern District but it terminates at Shau Kei Wan?





I supposed 99 could take care some passengers in Aberdeen going to Shau Kei Wan. The bus companies probably aren't too sure if there is enough demand for passengers travelling between Ap Lei Chau and the 'eastern' districts.


Another reason could be historical factor, as Ap Lei Chau is 'relatively' new to Aberdeen!


>


> 7. How come Aberdeen has two routes, 41A & 76, passing through Nam Fung


> Road but Ap Lei Chau has none?





Is Nam Fung Road a popular place for Ap Lei Chau passengers? I guess so, especially during summer time, when people want to go to swim!


Hence, I agree, bus companies are ignoring this fact!


>


> 8. How come there is a racecourse route 807 to Aberdeen and Wah Fu but no such kind


> of route for Ap Lei Chau? Is that means Wah Fu resident are more 爛賭?


>


I would contribute to the latter factor I mentioned in 6 above.





> 9. How come there is school route 81A from Hing Wah Estate to Breamer Hill but


> not such kind of routes for Yiu Tung Estate and Siu Sai Wan?





Well, maybe 81A should extend to Siu Sai Wan to 'cover' all the passengers! Not sure about the demand at Yiu Tung, as again, it's a 'relatively' new district!


>


> 10. How come route 5 passes Happy Valley in west bound direction but don't passes through


> in east bound direction? 'I just got out form my home in Happy valley to Queen's Road East


> by route 5 on a beautiful Sunday morning. But now I find out that there is no way for me


> to go back home!'


>


I guess trams are doing a better job this time, as you can go both east and west in Happy Valley!


Also, you might want to thank the unidirection of Wong Ngai Chung Road in Happy Valley!


I don't really like the idea of serving different places in different direction.


For example, KMB route 28 uses Airport Tunnel in one direction but not the other.


Or take 103 and 118 for examples, the former serves Causeway Bay and 'centre' Central in one direction but not the other, same for 118 serving. (though I'm not suggesting it should via King's Road on the other direction)





I think some other routes are doing a pretty good job serving both directions, such as 107 in Kai Yip, 970 in Wah Fu/Chi Fu, as well as most routes running through South Horizon.





> 11. Finally question, do you know why I post this thread?





That's because... I don't know! (perhaps my complaints about 103 earlier?)



100 Wong


Article 14: (Request 2)

> 1. In Queens Road East, there are 4 routes to Kennedy Town, 5,5A,10,113


> but no route to Chai Wan, Shau Kei Wan or even Tai Koo Shing. How come bus


> companies can be so sure that those Queen's Road East residents never go to


> Eastern District? Also how come the bus companies provide so many bus routes to


> Western District?





行落一個街口咪有小巴囉, 你唔通叫巴士同小巴爭食咩?





> 3. I travel from Wah Fu to Wan Chai, why I need to pass through Robinson


> Road? (Route 40)





你可以走出去坐 37A 架嗎!





> 4. I travel from Wan Chai to Siu Sai Wan, why I need to follow the tram


> rail all the way? (Route 8)





你唔坐 780 同 788 o者, 如果要快.


同埋, 好似 8 號呢o的線咁, 佢o的客唔係由總站去總站, 係中途上上落落,


分分鐘由小西灣去到灣仔o的客可以換哂都得...





> 5. In Siu Sai Wan, there is already 788, why 780 still departs from there,


> take some 788 passengers away and make those who live in Chai Wan West to stand?





值得考慮...





> 6. How come 38, 41A and 42 pass through Aberdeen but all of them


> terminate at North Point? Ap Lei Chau has just one route, 99, to


> Eastern District but it terminates at Shau Kei Wan?





蟹~~~! 唔好咁樣樣啦, 轉車咪得囉...





> 9. How come there is school route 81A from Hing Wah Estate to Breamer Hill but


> not such kind of routes for Yiu Tung Estate and Siu Sai Wan?





606 咪得囉!





艾莎


Article 15:

水貨還是行貨?


Flying Chuk (chuk@netvigator.com) at Fri Mar 13 22:55, 1998 said:


有樣野我想知好耐...巴士底盤


是水貨還是行貨?如是行貨,


Volvo個代理是太古?


Dennis個代理是DSV(HK)?


平治是仁夫?


Mcw是乜?


Scania是福方??


又有冇保用?(三年或首二萬公里??)








請多多指教





飛機竺


Article 15: (Request 1)

> Flying Chuk (chuk@netvigator.com) said:


> 有樣野我想知好耐...巴士底盤


> 是水貨還是行貨?如是行貨,


if you think that is 'walk', so in Volvo's Showroom, you will see a lot of bus!


Spice Boy---3AD10


Article 15: (Request 2)

> Chris (tsesh@hkstar.com) said:


> if you think that is 'walk', so in Volvo's Showroom, you will see a lot of bus!





梗係唔會,九巴o的三菱由代理引入,有原廠保養,


又唔見三菱擺好多MKo係陳列室。


Article 16:

Man豪之奇....


Flying Chuk (chuk@netvigator.com) at Fri Mar 13 22:39, 1998 said:


巴士識別P.114(Man NL292)


個的紅綠掣(門掣)


對上個三支推杆有何用呀?(應不是


冷氣,因冷氣掣在後少少)


還有其引擎是偏右,會不


會影響平衡?





還有好奇的是P.93,75(中間)


頁的富豪錶板都是弧形(中巴那隻)


但完成裝崁後就冇了一邊,何解?


在屯裝是都冇啦(包括其底盤)...


.好怪啊!!





Please Help me~~





飛機竺


Article 16: (Request 1)

專登拆左佢囉 (底盤來港時係有的),


唔係裝唔到發達窿呀.





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車匙!


Article 16: (Request 2)

難怪塊蓋咁差啦(用六角'羅斯'夾硬上!





飛機竺


Article 17:

焦聊好去處-九廣K15


輕鐵敵人 (burnlt@netvigator.com) at Fri Mar 13 22:10, 1998 said:


標題應是'無聊'好去處


Article 17: (Request 1)

> 輕鐵敵人 (lcw.hongkong@usa.net) said:


> 當閣下無聊時,要慳錢.舒服.夠拖時間?我有好建議:


> 九廣巴士K15!


> 由中港城去旺火,任你估行幾耐.答案平均28分鐘


> 搭佢遊車河既免費,又有冷氣,仲拖時間,是閣下


> 最佳選擇.警告:趕時間或有心


臟病者


> 切忌乘搭.(實激死你).唔知仲有冇其他類似好提議?


Article 17: (Request 2)

To: 輕鐵敵人 (burnlt@netvigator.com)





如只是改首篇文的標題, 只需在內文註明便可.





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家祺!


Article 18:

Re: 聯邦快遞短龍版!


荔景337傻佬 (a337@netvigator.com) at Fri Mar 13 22:05, 1998 said:


> ME19 (plaxton@chevalier.net) said:


> 如題


>


>





好一張明顯由AD改0既假相,一睇個車頭就知到,


邊有車個車頭會好似俾人'當刀'0左0甘架,仲要上


下唔對稱0忝!





兼麻煩你下次唔好凈係打如題兩個字,要介紹你部


'假車'就打多幾隻字啦,唔該! ~^_^~





荔景337傻佬


Article 18: (Request 1)

真係假車0架!不過都係短龍0者!


Article 19:

Re: 3N 訓練巴士?


東邪 (mingyin@hkstar.com) at Fri Mar 13 21:35, 1998 said:


> S3BL423 (ckcling@netvigator.com) said:


> 頭先向屯門公路見到一部3N1,2,3 車身的物體


> 新噴完油出九龍.車身好似白色(唔肯定,太黑,睇唔清楚).但肯定係3N1,2或3.


> 唔知是否做了訓諫巴士???


> 有冇版友在見到呀????


> 我上個月在屯門廠見到它在大修中.





 小弟都見到呀 ... 大約七點四十五分 , o係沙田新城市廣場(大埔公路近火車站)標過.





東邪


Article 19: (Request 1)

應該同3M同一命運


Article 20:

Re: 小巴專線?!


AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) at Sat Mar 14 02:51, 1998 said:


>Zenga (96479104@plink.cityu.edu.hk) said:


>


> 今日真開心,有得Day Off,留番係屯門,唔洗迫巴士同地龍.


> 又見到0係輕鐵做既fan(行跳飛機好難撞倒0架!),可以同佢嗲


> 返陣.一齊呢埋0係屯中個冬姑亭入面大講車經,當講到交通


> 差D衰野既時候,佢話有一次渣車去左香港仔,由於好耐無出


> 過0個頭,連條路叫乜都唔知,D路又變左D,一時間迷左路.當


> 時佢上緊山,諗住自己行錯路,想調頭落番山,兜去第二度,


> 佢見大路調頭危險兼難調,於是找條巷仔調頭兼落車睇下D


> 路先再繼續行.佢見有紅小入條巷調頭,諗住跟紅小行無衰


> 既,於是渣入條巷仔度調頭,點知一渣入條巷就俾交通差


> '捷'住,話佢入左小巴專線!佢話好耐無行過條路又唔見有


> 路牌寫住,個交通差就同佢行去0係個路口入幾尺既路牌度,


> 話佢知呢個就係小巴專線既路牌.當時個路牌0岩0岩俾紅小


> 遮住,佢就俾個交通差吹到啤一聲兼罰錢!佢0個陣時都R晒頭,


> 明明唔俾小巴進入既路牌就見得多,專俾小巴進入既路牌同


> 路就未聽過同見過.我當時都諗,除左小巴站範圍之外,好少


> 可見到專俾小巴入既路段同有關既路牌.照計條路俾小巴入


> 既話,都應該同樣劃做巴士線0架,佢話0個度無劃巴士線播,


> 如果有劃巴士線,佢實唔渣入去0架.我聽完都R晒頭,乜本港


> 有D咁陰濕既路(同交通差)既咩?照計大巴專線兼俾小巴行就


> 周圍都係,小巴專線?真係未聽過同見過播.(可能我'大鄉里'


> 卦!)


>


> 俾U入面個Lab[火局]親既輕鐵至愛


> 辛格


>


> 後話:今日0係個冬姑亭入面又可以大開眼界!個冬姑亭貼左


> 反光玻璃紙,0係入面見到出面有一男一女曬花槍﹐非常精


> 彩,D花槍同黑色暴雨有得輝!後尾個女仔仲打個男仔幾下,我


> 個fan仲以為打交要報警兼出去制止添!好心唔好咁出位啦!


> 如果我地一標出去實嚇死佢地0者!不過出面個兩個都唔知有


> 兩個傻佬0係個冬姑亭度睇戲就真既!:P


>


請問那條小巴專線在哪兒?





無論是COMENG還是KAWASAKI車廂,也是我超級敵人的


AV129


Article 20: (Request 1)

我由頭到尾都係講緊香港仔既某條巷﹒


辛格


Article 21:

九巴新廣告


Colin Chang (kalim@netvigator.com) at Fri Mar 13 18:44, 1998 said:


九巴有新電視廣告喎,最後兩句係「九巴,不斷提高服務質素,員工已超過


萬二人」





似乎想幫88線做勢喎!


Article 21: (Request 1)

人多有咩用?最緊要以客為先,才會有好服務.


Article 21: (Request 2)

不如城巴拍個廣告o丫~!


「擁有全香港最密班次的''綜合班次''、


及全港最多的''飛機師''、不斷為乘


客提供''安全快捷''的服務........。 」





William Fung


ICQ:4044831


Article 22:

夾腳趣聞一則


HE7489 (shuhang@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 14:09, 1998 said:


小弟今日答86K時,到馬鞍山某一站落車,


有一個細路仔居然係開車門時比門夾到!





個司機話:我渣左巴士禁耐,都未使過開門


都夾到人地隻腳,簡直係開埠以來第一單!





你地話奇唔奇呢?


Article 22: (Request 1)

咁就抵個細路死啦, 唔走近車門點會俾佢夾到?!





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Article 23:

城巴1501行哪條線?


ME19 (plaxton@chevalier.net) at Sat Mar 14 13:42, 1998 said:


如題,詳細資料,最好有埋time table>.


Article 24:

Congratulation & Request


y k shum (ykshum@mit.edu) at Sat Mar 14 12:40, 1998 said:


> KWB (dx2437@netvigator.com) said:


> 巴士專線已經重開


> URL : http://home.netvigator.com/~dx2437/main.html





Congratulation. What caused the long pause?





Any chance you can repost the picture of a tow-truck


pulling a Guy Victory2 waited to be 'executed'?





y k


Article 25:

Re: 網 址


Hanvas 漢 華 (hanvas@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 12:09, 1998 said:


> Gohan (a3819@hkstar.com) said:


> 38網頁加入中巴車隊資料,內有31張中巴相!


> 及巴士舊聞亦已更新!


> 還有城巴照片5張,九鐵照片2張。


>


> 歡迎參觀!


>


> 極希望中巴中標的


> Gohan





死 火 囉 ! 你 連 網 址 都 唔 打 ?


中 巴 3 8 網 頁


Article 26:

2101


GU8933 (w0108@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 10:30, 1998 said:


請問城躉2101 是否都普車身??


還有在東涌廠那幾部都普城躉(樓上一個水潑o個批)


是否已出牌????


Article 26: (Request 1)

2101 should be fitted with an Alexander body.


Article 27:

白牌TITANIC58X


AV129 (kftsang@chevalier.net) at Sat Mar 14 05:53, 1998 said:


今天凌晨十二時正左右,有一輛以香港某水塘命名的非專利巴士公司


,居然有一輛五十鈴巴士在亞皆老街做了58X,車頭有一張紙寫著


「良景、田景和建生$10」,所有正在此站等候58X的乘客也登


上了此巴士,下一班58X亦沒有乘客在此站上車。





此外,此車貼上了一張很大的TITANIC海報。





另外,自從九廣廢鐵通車以來,屯門和元朗區出現了很多「白牌」車


,大受歡迎。





請問各位板友有沒有見過「白牌」巴呢?





AV129


Article 27: (Request 1)

嚴禁於標題中使用 HTML TAGS. (守則 3.1)


貼文前請先細閱貼文守則.





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Article 28:

Re: 模型人仔?!


C.K. Chow 傑仔 (chowack@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 00:35, 1998 said:


> Steve (ste2009@hkstar.com) said:


>


> 今日無聊行過80M巴士店, 見到門口放0左兩架


> 模型(VA40 & 龍運). 兩架車上都放0左好多人


> 仔, 不知那些人仔是怎樣放進車內的? 而那些


> 人仔那裏可以買到?





o個o的人仔係模型舖(尤其有火車模型的舖頭)


都有得買,一盒有七個人仔。





點放人仔入架車度?拆開架車咪得囉!


不過用文字就好難講俾你聽點拆車,要有實物親自


講述。








C.K. Chow 傑仔


Article 29:

新褔你車長辛苦--Go Go tran


STDM 36 (dickson2@macau.ctm.net) at Fri Mar 13 22:30, 1998 said:


今天我放學後在港澳碼頭影完高速船相後, 往(乙水)仔搭 34! 等了


六, 七分鐘才有車來! 嘩! 今天果然是黑色星期五, 派架舊車不單


止(八八年版 Rosa), 座位非常硬淨! 而師傳在到(乙水)仔都未休息


又要踏上下一程路. 開始時, 師傳開始有些心急! 後來我才知道除了


澳門廷長至媽閣才, 原來他在(乙水)仔加行孫逸?馬路, 這樣架車的


行車時間又廷長多三分鐘. 到了澳門, 個師傅更加心急, 到了關閘時,


個站長叫他等等! 個車長開始發火! 因為他已經遲了返終站. 即是說


如果他不再返媽閣總站的話, 他可能二十分鐘吃飯時間也沒有! 而當


時個站長看看這架是特車還是字軌車. 因為三十四的特車是到關閘為


總站, 不會到媽閣! 車長在入關閘中途總站時, 好像玩 Go Tran 一


樣! 開到五十 KM/H. 到站前開始減速! 剛好只差兩三步到正確的位


上. 可能站長要扣車長的時間! 車開啦! 嘩! 飛咁快又到40 KM/H.


不過要入彎啦! 在市區內個車長左穿右插, 不過始終不能夠爬其他車


頭. 後來我問師傳是否趕返總站吃飯? 他說是, 二十分鐘又要去買飯,


買完都不夠時間吃! 我覺得在新記做師傅真可憐!而師傅話吃完飯又


不知走哪一條線, 可能是 5 號, 可能是 2 號又或者是 7號. 總之由


站長來做決定. 而我在司打口下車, 車程已用了五十分鐘但上車的人


合共只得四/五十人(全程).





今天見到中華白海豚和上了架攪泥船(STDM36)的STDM36


Article 30:

Re: GB2444車長對HKBDB的不滿


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) at Fri Mar 13 23:46, 1998 said:


> Dr.Route (ss78k@netteens.net) said:


> 近來,部分HKBDB板友都有貼水牌事件,曾經令GB2444的車長


> 不滿,也無意中嫁禍了我的好友。最後已向GB2444車長澄清。


>


> 今日,我的好友打電來,聞知GB2444車長話有板友對他作出誣


> 陷。他希望我向各板友作出以下聲明:


> 本人不希望再有人作出誣陷,否則報官!


>


> Dr.Route希望各板友小心,不要作無謂的猜測。





似乎本文標題有少少誤導成份喎! 板友本身做出貼水牌行為純屬佢地本人責任,


佢地嚮外間所作所為完全唔會同 HKBDB 有關, 點解要話某車長對本板不滿?


本板並冇任何文章詆譭該名車長, 或造成該名車長任何損失喎!





講開又講, 究竟佢遭到咩誣諂呢? 咩係無謂o既猜測呢?


Article 31:

Re: 想要嶼巴11及23號的班次資料


Dr.Route (ss78k@netteens.net) at Fri Mar 13 21:09, 1998 said:


> Andrew Siu (shiaw@netvigator.com) said:


>


> 小弟明天就會同朋友由東涌去大澳或昂平 ,


>


> 希望各位版友能幫忙提供班次資料 ,


>


> 唔該晒 !


>


> Andrew


>


>


>


>


>


You must see this Buspages:


http://home.netteens.net/~ss78k/lantau.htm





So that you can find the information of NLB RT.11 and 23.





Dr.Route


Article 32:

【無聊】四月三巴卜一卜


★皇太子☆ (asluk@net.polyu.edu.hk) at Fri Mar 13 20:46, 1998 said:


小弟今日無聊,用十隻手指卜o下四月三巴發生之事,如下:





~可樂~


(1) 搭冷馬會幾凍!!


(2) 餘未了...


(3) 凍結殺行動!!


(4) 會走遍全島~~~~~


(5) 寶寶會(潛)逃..


(6) 會有新到港


(7) 三巴慶祝巴士總承客量,共達八萬五千個.





~可悲~





(1) 搭熱狗會幾熱!!


(2) 會有殺行動~


(3) 三巴不會輸入新


(4) 都城在霧(慕)中消失


(5) 寶寶自身難保...


(6) 要入廠銷車!!


(7) 運書局發現,乘客坐車頂會有危險!!








四月三巴命運如此...如有雷同,實屬巧合....





AV666(KA6666)^o^


Article 33:

問後備車資料


C Ma (madc@bp.com) at Fri Mar 13 19:53, 1998 said:


請問現時中、九、城各車廠有幾多架後備車?


Article 34:

問資料庫?


G544JACKY (g544myk@hkschool.net) at Fri Mar 13 19:48, 1998 said:





我想問資料庫D資料係


點決定放落去?係唔係


全部都來自這裏?重有,


點解係板友資料裏,好似


唔見我名?(D字太細,看得不太清楚,可以改大D嗎?)


最後想知這板過了3板後,


D資料係唔係會除去呢?





請多多指教!


Article 34: (Request 1)

If you want to add your name to 板友資料裏, you should


inform to Ken Fung by e-mail.





Benjamin who also add my name and my representative


bus by e-mail


AD239-GN921


921-GW2858


Article 35:

城巴研究跳飛機制度


michella (samlau88@netvigator.com) at Fri Mar 13 18:29, 1998 said:


今日英文虎報講城巴尋日係中西區臨區會透露已邀請專家研究


編間制度,另外又將每日跳飛機的路線由四條減到三條。





詳細內容請看這裏





唉,一日跳三條線都辛苦D司傅啦:(





michella


Article 36:

CMB 347


Bunnie W (96008318@plink.cityu.edu.hk) at Sat Mar 14 15:28, 1998 said:


I have some questions about this route, I hope any


boardmate can help me. Thank you very much.





(1)When this route had been introduced?





(2)Does the routing is the same as the former CMB route 77?





(3)Did the route only have a service on Ching Ming Festival


of 1996. After that, it became a 'nominal' route?


Article 36: (Request 1)

以我記億之中是沒有347的,而有的是357,


由中環交易廣場<->薄扶林中華基督教墳場


Article 37:

踢踢踢踢踢踢....


DA82 (da82@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 16:02, 1998 said:


因為銅鑼灣嚴重交通濟塞,好多巴士返到總站被踢,所以好多人冇車搭...


(好多巴士由渣華道轉出英皇道繼續行程)





DA82,HB8095.


Article 38:

【 網 頁 廣 告 】 網 絡 穿 梭 又 加 相


Hanvas 漢 華 (hanvas@netvigator.com) at Sat Mar 14 15:53, 1998 said:


【 網 頁 廣 告 】 網 絡 穿 梭 又 加 相 喇 :


由 於 考 試 期 近 ,


原 定 未 來 一 兩 個 月 既 大 相 將 會 盡 早 上 網 ,


並 暫 定 由 四 月 一 日 開 始 暫 停 更 新 五 十 日 ,


敬 請 留 意 !





=======================================================================================


網 絡 穿 梭 聯 同 香 港 汽 車 網 絡 快 線 ,


又 再 度 加 大 相 喇 ,


網 頁 裡 面 既 大 相 , 分 別 係 :


980115.) Neoplan Megashuttle on testing


980120.) CTB #2003 on 550


980125.) KMB G5 on 31


980130.) CTB #855 on 930


980205.) KMB AV357 on 30X


980210.) CMB VA53 on 112


980215.) KMB AV107 on 30X


980220.) KMB AV1 Crashed


980225.) CTB #2112 New Arrival


980305.) KMB S3BL174 with a new body


980310.) CTB #1501 New Arrival 「 試 車 相 」


980315.) KMB 3AV142 Crashed





歡 迎 參 觀 !





網 絡 穿 梭


http://home.netvigator.com/~hanvas/index.html






網 絡 穿 梭 相 片 集


http://home.netvigator.com/~hanvas/photoalm/index.html






香 港 汽 車 網 絡 快 線


http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/9983


Article 39:

A31網頁更新


Matthew Wong--a31 (wong3553@hkschool.net) at Sat Mar 14 16:19, 1998 said:


A31網頁的巴士相簿完成,請各位參觀


網址http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/4398/a31.htm


請與本頁聯盟


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